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Eventing's New Rider Fall Rule

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  • Eventing's New Rider Fall Rule

    Well how did it look to you while watching?

    I was impressed. It is bitterly disappointing, but the riders seemed to handle it well. It came across as looking very sportmanslike. No one got hurt, rider, nor horse. It was one of those 'hey, call it a day' judgments that happens in life. It looked like an example was being set.

    Maybe it will give "Get Over It" new meaning now.
    Don't let anyone tell you that your ideas or dreams are foolish. There is a millionaire walking around who invented the pool noodle.

  • #2
    No problem with it here. Ya fall off, you're done. Next !

    I thought the course looked gorgeous...on the grass, through the trees....beautiful.

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    • #3
      I am and have been for it...like anything new..it will take time but everyone will get used to it.

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      • #4
        i felt kind of bad for the first Chinese eventer to go (he fell early) and you could see that he was mixed mad/disapointed in falling off. i agree with the new rule to a certain extent. yes it could be safer in the long run, but for a lot of people eventing on a budget a fall can throw a wrench in your season if you are unable to finish a competiton. Growing up i was only able to go to a few events a year and if i had the one fall your out rule it would have been a couple less completions (gaining experience). If you aren't allowed to get back on after you fall you could lose confidence (i did, when i was unable to get back on (due too sprains and or horse pulling two front shoes) and keep going, it was quite awhile before i could go to the next event) or you are on a young horse then it is harder the next time to get over the "bogey fence, scary shadow, etc..."

        There is a time and place to keep the rider from re mounting but i think we need to do more research before making a big change to the sport.
        R.I.P. Bourneville Jester 12/06/06

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        • #5
          Originally posted by jumpjesterjump View Post
          i felt kind of bad for the first Chinese eventer to go (he fell early) and you could see that he was mixed mad/disapointed in falling off. i agree with the new rule to a certain extent. yes it could be safer in the long run, but for a lot of people eventing on a budget a fall can throw a wrench in your season if you are unable to finish a competiton. Growing up i was only able to go to a few events a year and if i had the one fall your out rule it would have been a couple less completions (gaining experience). If you aren't allowed to get back on after you fall you could lose confidence (i did, when i was unable to get back on (due too sprains and or horse pulling two front shoes) and keep going, it was quite awhile before i could go to the next event) or you are on a young horse then it is harder the next time to get over the "bogey fence, scary shadow, etc..."

          There is a time and place to keep the rider from re mounting but i think we need to do more research before making a big change to the sport.



          so you are more concerned about your budget then your safety?

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          • #6
            "If you aren't allowed to get back on after you fall you could lose confidence...."


            If you fall off, and are eliminated, are you allowed to go back to the warm-up area and get back on and school for a few minutes ?

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            • #7
              I think it's a good rule, as long as you are allowed to go back to the warm-up and school once you've fallen.

              ETA: So long as you and horsie check out fine, that is. I think it's important to get back over a few jumps so confidence isn't lost. My trainer would always say, "Are you ok? Alright, get back up and try it again!"
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              • #8
                i'm not more concerned about my budget than my safety. Safety always comes first, i am saying that if you are physically fine you should be allowed to continue. I have had my share of falls (in competition and at home). I have always (when able) gotten back on and tried the jump again, that was how i was taught growing up, you always get back on.

                I did ask permission at a horse trials before to school a young horse over some warmup fences after having a fall, and retiring (it was his 2nd or 3rd event). They allowed me too, it was a boost of confidence for him and me (him: that mom isn't scary when we jump, me that i got back up and did it.)
                R.I.P. Bourneville Jester 12/06/06

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by jumpjesterjump View Post
                  i'm not more concerned about my budget than my safety. Safety always comes first, i am saying that if you are physically fine you should be allowed to continue. I have had my share of falls (in competition and at home). I have always (when able) gotten back on and tried the jump again, that was how i was taught growing up, you always get back on.
                  )

                  But there in lies the problem...it is to prevent riders from continuing when the think they are fine but are actually not. Always getting back on has consequences.

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                  • #10
                    In H/J we are eliminated with one fall. We can go pop a couple schooling fences, but not in the show ring. Different world, I know, but similar consequences during competition.

                    I think it was a good thing. *Maybe* letting the lowest levels get back on and continue, so long as horse and rider are okay, but I like the 1 fall and your out rule.
                    "IT'S NOT THE MOUNTAIN WE CONQUER, BUT OURSELVES." SIR EDMUND HILLARYMember of the "Someone Special To Me Serves In The Military" Clique

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                    • #11
                      It's so hard to tell, even at the lower levels. We had a PT kid get back on her horse, and it wasn't until she started galloping around completly confused that anyone realized there was an issue and flagged her down.
                      "Adulthood? You're playing with ponies. That is, like, every 9 year old girl's dream. Adulthood?? You're rocking the HELL out of grade 6, girl."

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                      • #12
                        I haven't been paying close enough attention - does the "fall and out" rule only apply to falls at fences, or other falls on course, too? I'd suppose it's perfectly possible to be bucked (or spooked) off while galloping between fences - that never used to matter (aside from time faults). Did it change?

                        I did feel for the one rider last night who came off on the way to the misting tents. Wasn't quite clear what happened - she might have tried to do a jockey (flying) dismount and got caught in the stirrup... Anyway, no more than embarrassing, poor thing...

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                        • #13
                          Aside from the safety issue, it's a competition. If you fall off, you should be done. Period. It's an extreme error to separate from your horse and should be looked at in such a way.

                          On a side note, just thought you guys might want to know that Amy Tryon is actually 16 years old, at least according to my NBC news tonight when it showed her fall.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by ponyjumper4 View Post
                            Aside from the safety issue, it's a competition. If you fall off, you should be done. Period. It's an extreme error to separate from your horse and should be looked at in such a way.

                            On a side note, just thought you guys might want to know that Amy Tryon is actually 16 years old, at least according to my NBC news tonight when it showed her fall.


                            just saw that on NBC17

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                            • #15
                              I am sure Amy would love being called 16 again!!! LOL

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                              • #16
                                Regarding the rule, I think it is good. Regarding those commentators, as glad as I was to see the coverage, they made me go "huh??"

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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by Mardi View Post
                                  "If you aren't allowed to get back on after you fall you could lose confidence...."


                                  If you fall off, and are eliminated, are you allowed to go back to the warm-up area and get back on and school for a few minutes ?
                                  There is no rule against it (unless you are riding dangerously). I have done it in the past.
                                  Last edited by Janet; Aug. 12, 2008, 09:06 AM.
                                  Janet

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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by paw View Post
                                    I haven't been paying close enough attention - does the "fall and out" rule only apply to falls at fences, or other falls on course, too? ...
                                    Only falls related to fences.
                                    Janet

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                                    • #19
                                      If you have a fall and your horse is hurt so you can't get back on,do you lose your confidence?
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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by jumpjesterjump View Post
                                        i felt kind of bad for the first Chinese eventer to go (he fell early) and you could see that he was mixed mad/disapointed in falling off. i agree with the new rule to a certain extent. yes it could be safer in the long run, but for a lot of people eventing on a budget a fall can throw a wrench in your season if you are unable to finish a competiton. Growing up i was only able to go to a few events a year and if i had the one fall your out rule it would have been a couple less completions (gaining experience). If you aren't allowed to get back on after you fall you could lose confidence (i did, when i was unable to get back on (due too sprains and or horse pulling two front shoes) and keep going, it was quite awhile before i could go to the next event) or you are on a young horse then it is harder the next time to get over the "bogey fence, scary shadow, etc..."

                                        There is a time and place to keep the rider from re mounting but i think we need to do more research before making a big change to the sport.


                                        If you lose your confidence THAT badly that you wont get on another horse unless its right after you fall, then eventing is not the sport for you!
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