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  • Looks like Tryon may have...........

    killed off the WEG.
    https://www.horseandhound.co.uk/news...-future-670162
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    I think the WEG killed off the WEG. It has struggled the last few cycles to find hosts and be profitable. I think it just got too big and too expensive to host. It wasn't just Tryon.

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    • #3
      I think this would make a great case study for a high school or college economics class. Reading the linked article was sort of like reading a history of the West between the wars, when the very very rich with horses could afford to participate in this sport and travel to it, while the servant class (the grooms) were treated like ... servants. With no rights or regard. It showed me maybe why some people consider equestrian sports too elitist for the Olympics.

      There is the uppermost class that can afford to compete. There is the next-level upper class than can afford to buy tickets, transportation, and hotel accommodation to go and watch the uppermost class compete. Then there are the regular middle-class horsemen and women who complain about not getting to see it all on TV. Then there are the grooms, who get paid but not properly housed.

      It's not a very real-world competition.
      Rack on!

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      • #4
        I would agree, I think WEG has been circling the drain for a few years now.

        What I got out of the article is that maybe the multi-discipline WEG will be gone, multi-events for the different disciplines may come about. Would make more sense so each discipline can be managed specific in a venue for that discipline instead of expecting one venue to 'do it all'.
        When you start to observe, you become more effective... your movements soften, you see more, you are more available to becoming a team member. Be an Observer first, a Handler second.

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        • #5
          And WEG 2022 is no more. They are now looking for hosts of individual championships.

          http://dressage-news.com/2018/11/17/...championships/

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          • #6
            Hopefully it will become dead and buried. Now it is time to kill off the FEI. I suspect the olympic games won't be far behind.
            A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it.

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            • #7
              I hate to even say this but I really won't miss WEG or the equestrian events in the Olympics, as a TV spectator you rarely get to see them any way unless you pay to subscribe to some venue that offers it.

              I think it would be better if the individual disciplines held their own championships, much cheaper for the places that are holding the events and can be more easily done with existing facilities.

              Dressage will suffer as it doesn't have the big money shows like jumping does and gets no TV time on anything. Jumping will keep going just as it has been, see lots of regular TV coverage of it all the time.

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              • #8
                Leaving the Olympics would be the best thing for eventing. I hope that happens.
                Boss Mare Eventing Blog

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                • #9
                  Can't help but feel a little sad about this. From a personal standpoint, I've got so many great memories from 2010, 2014, and 2018 made with my sister, niece, and husband. We got some great trips out of it and met all kinds of interesting and fun people. And, of course, seen a level of riding that I would have never experienced locally.

                  I completely understand the difficulty - heck, they are having trouble finding venues for the Olympics as cities are finding out that the promised economic boost just doesn't happen. But still....

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by js View Post
                    I hate to even say this but I really won't miss WEG or the equestrian events in the Olympics, as a TV spectator you rarely get to see them any way unless you pay to subscribe to some venue that offers it.

                    I think it would be better if the individual disciplines held their own championships, much cheaper for the places that are holding the events and can be more easily done with existing facilities.

                    Dressage will suffer as it doesn't have the big money shows like jumping does and gets no TV time on anything. Jumping will keep going just as it has been, see lots of regular TV coverage of it all the time.
                    I agree. I attended the Eventing Championships in Kentucky in 1978 ("before it was Rolex"), and went to the last full-format 3-day at Badminton in 2005. 1978 was in the US because the US Team won gold in the previous Championships, and that was how the venue for the next Championships was determined. If they return to that format, looks like the burden will be on Great Britain for the foreseeable future! LOL!!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Equibrit View Post
                      I think you're putting way to much blame on Tryon (and perhaps to furth bash Belissimo?)- remember they were awarded the bid with about 1/2 the time to build out the facility after Bromont pulled out. Also you are apparently not factoring in that Samorin, the 2022 host site, pulled which has caused the FEI to re-open bids, KY/Lexington also withdrew their bid.

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                      • #12
                        "Tryon" didn't kill the WEG. The FEI and the unwieldy nature of the event killed the WEG.

                        The 2018 WEG had plenty of issues, but Tryon itself was not the cause of the majority of them.

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                        • #13
                          More like Tryon was the last straw for the FEI and WEG.

                          Everyone realizes there were many unforeseeable factors and that they only had 1/2 the time to get ready for it; the FEI probably looked at all things that happened and said they were done.

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                          • #14
                            Tyron and all the problems with the venue and the weather was probably the final straw in something that was already starting to happen with WEG.

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                            • #15
                              Thank goodness. Go back to World Championships for each sport, and have them in appropriate venues that won't go broke holding them. It will make it much easier on spectators, too, as local hotels won't try to suck the life out of us with their fees. We won't be selling out all the available hotels, so it won't register. Transportation will be easier (Normandy, anyone?), as will all logistics.

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                              • #16
                                HUH??? You may understand what you just posted, but it is totally unintelligible to me and, (I daresay) to many others.
                                Are you aware you are on a HORSE forum? Whatever language you are speaking doesn't sound like it belongs on a HORSE forum.

                                Can't think of what words led you to believe that you were in a car place. Buh bye.
                                "He lives in a cocoon of solipsism" https://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/c...lies/smile.gif

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                                • #17
                                  I do think Tryon did what they could do to save an awkward situation that might otherwise have led to no WEG in 2018.

                                  This is an FEI-WEG problem, and it's the same problem regardless of the venue. The all-discipline format is not a realistic proposition. If they tried to insist on an all-discipline WEG, that would probably be the end of WEG.

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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by Rackonteur View Post

                                    There is the uppermost class that can afford to compete. There is the next-level upper class than can afford to buy tickets, transportation, and hotel accommodation to go and watch the uppermost class compete. Then there are the regular middle-class horsemen and women who complain about not getting to see it all on TV. Then there are the grooms, who get paid but not properly housed.

                                    It's not a very real-world competition.
                                    With the exception of the grooms, it sounds like most major league sports, especially the NFL.

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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by Mardi View Post

                                      With the exception of the grooms, it sounds like most major league sports, especially the NFL.
                                      Huh? I don't think most major league sport athletes are the children of millionaires and billionaires, especially the NFL.
                                      Let me apologize in advance.

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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by ladyj79 View Post

                                        Huh? I don't think most major league sport athletes are the children of millionaires and billionaires, especially the NFL.
                                        Well, actually ...

                                        In this day & age, a football player has no shot at the NFL without substantial support from home for many years, from the age of about 6, right through their first NFL contract. The days of the unschooled farm kid being taught to hold a football and run toward the goalposts are long over.

                                        We are in the era of more expensive and higher-levels of sport at younger and younger ages, in virtually all popular sports. Without substantial economic support from home, a young football player has about as much chance at the NFL as a young rider has at riding at Intermediate eventing or above. Talent alone has no shot, any more than it does in horse sport.

                                        In addition to the additional special equipment, private coaching, football camps, medical support for game recovery and injuries, the family must live where the young player will attend a high school with a top program that regularly goes to the playoffs for the state championship, which are usually affluent communities (average income $100k+). Etc. If the player is ever eligible for the draft or free agency, there is a whole other regime of coaching, practice, attending combines, etc., all on their own dime. No knowing if they will get a contract or even a chance at an NFL practice team.

                                        New-entry NFL players may not have to come from millionaire families, but it is interesting how many do. As well as well-above-average income families. Of those few who manage to make it from families that originated from more modest circumstances, it is interesting how many have a close relative who is in professional sports and has the means to provide more help. It takes money as well as talent to have even a chance at the NFL.



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