• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.

Announcement

Collapse

Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

6 yo 16.1 hand TB gelding recovering from pneumonia- MD

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • #21
    Hi doublete I just sent you a PM!

    Comment


    • #22
      It is no attack, you said he could not get out of the stall, if he is so ill he cannot be moved, how in the world could he be placed? Observations about the efficacy of the contract and what was stated by you, yourself, that you do not know if he will recover or not, all observations. If he has been placed and he is safe, that is great. Good for him and for you. I have myself seen plenty of contracts and very few that stipulate fines, etc. I like a horse to be mine when I adopt it, and free to do with as I like. If I were to sell the horse, and then it ended up in a bad situation, it is very likely in today's courtroom that someone could twist that and hold you liable. Usually they are really not worth the ink that is spent on the paper unless you like to spend money on lawyers but certainly a sick horse needing months, perhaps a year of rehab, should have all kinds of strings attached. I hope that this works out for the best and he becomes a useful horse for whoever spends the $3 - $5,000 it will take just to feed and treat him to get him healthy.


      Here is your quote about what was and was not good for the horse. Your self righteous anger has no merit.


      "However, he is finally able to walk for about 15-20 minutes, and needs to be slowly rehabbed into turn out. It will help his recovery to be out of the stale air in the barns at the track. I cannot move him to my farm as he is simply too high maintenence right now I want to ensure he gets more than I can offer him away from the track."
      "We, too, will be remembered not for victories or defeats in battle or in politics, but for our contribution to the human spirit." JFK

      Comment


      • #23
        I wanted to forward the info to a friend but could not find him on the goodhorse.org website.

        Comment


        • #24
          My sales contract has the same thing in it. My horses are not to be sold at auction, to a kill buyer or resold with the intention to sell to slaughter. Should that happen and I find out, I can sue for the costs to get the horse back as well as vet, shipping and at costs. I also added in that the horse is not to be raced, trained to race or even step foot on the racetrack. I have never had a single buyer refuse to sign. If they did....they can look elsewhere.
          RIP Spider Murphy 4/20/02 - 10/31/10

          Comment


          • #25
            So I assume this horse has found a home,as I have not heard from anyone???

            Comment

            • Original Poster

              #26
              I am so rarely on this site, we are however in the midst of evaluating an adoptor.

              Calamber... Learn to read. He is in need of a different situation as he is AT THE RACETRACK right now. We do NOT HAVE TURNOUT. And I am not at my farm nearly enough to move him there. I can't be there for the time he needs to keep an eye on him the first few times he is turned out. Why??? Because he can't be allowed to run the fence and get himself worked up. Have you ever taken a horse off the track? Have you ever taken one that had an injury or a lung problem such as him? Would you yourself, should you get sick with pneumonia, allow yourself to go run 2 miles before working yourself up to it? No. The doctor would (as my vet did), recommend SLOW rehabilitation and recovery back into former exercise. So please try reading before you state what you think is right. I would recommend being more informed when replying.


              Quillcote.. I'm not online often and don't check this site often I did reply to your pm. He is being adopted through a rescue (a well known one that has a contract requiring references, etc) and we do have someone with first refusal right now. For now Opie and I are patiently (or not so, depending on how you look at it) waiting to hear if she passes the rescues standards.

              Goodhorse.org took him off their site and I could not get a return email or phone call as to why when he was not placed. I guess because as usual, politics mean they couldn't use his placement to benefit them if I went through a rescue.

              Honestly, people wonder why it is so hard to place horses safely off the track. Its very frustrating.
              Race training and retraining Thoroughbreds.

              Comment


              • #27
                Hi, doublete, how are you, its me, Inyureye from the old pedigree board - just wanted to say good luck with Opie, and I know you will find someone to take him. I would feel confident about taking him 'as is' if I were in a position to take another horse, which I am not at this time. Spend some time in turn out, work in hand this spring, learning new things, being a horse, learn to be a good citizen, grazing while I read a book on a rock, going for walks, growing a little more heel starting on some walking rides later in the sppring or summer. Love the OTTB mind, and have taken along a few of them. I have a horse now, and no matter what happens he'll stay with me, and I will in the next couple years be getting a second one. My second horse will be an OTTB like Opie, but sadly now is not the time. Anyway, if I can see it, someone else will too. Hope all is well with you. Nice to run into you again.
                My warmbloods have actually drunk mulled wine in the past. Not today though. A drunk warmblood is a surly warmblood. - WildandWickedWarmbloods

                Comment


                • #28
                  Again thanks! I hope Opie finds his right human!!

                  Comment


                  • #29
                    He is adorable! I wish I was closer!

                    Regarding contracts...
                    As someone who frequently takes in rescue horses, rehabs them, and then adopts them our for either free or a very small donation... A contract is a very small price to pay. No, I will not go one "blind trust" and give you an animal who has previously been abused and let you do as you will. I will come by and check on them, I will call you and expect a call back, I will expect emails being answered, and furthermore this is about mutual respect of an animal in peril. Be THANKFUL someone else loves your horse enough to give you a contract that reads "give me the first right of refusal."
                    CasperTheWonderPony

                    I used to belong to Casper. Now I belong to Charlie (first and foremost), Perris The Heiress, Bella Lua, and Blanca and Gypsy the miniature donkeys.

                    Comment


                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Casperthewonderpony View Post
                      He is adorable! I wish I was closer!

                      Regarding contracts...
                      As someone who frequently takes in rescue horses, rehabs them, and then adopts them our for either free or a very small donation... A contract is a very small price to pay. No, I will not go one "blind trust" and give you an animal who has previously been abused and let you do as you will. I will come by and check on them, I will call you and expect a call back, I will expect emails being answered, and furthermore this is about mutual respect of an animal in peril. Be THANKFUL someone else loves your horse enough to give you a contract that reads "give me the first right of refusal."
                      You must have missed something Casper, it was the wording that says that there will be fines attached, a little extraordinary. Never said no contract, and never said there should not be a right of first refusal. Contracts are still only as good as the person who signs them, and out of state, they are nearly impossible to enforce.
                      "We, too, will be remembered not for victories or defeats in battle or in politics, but for our contribution to the human spirit." JFK

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      X