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    I have an older Rambo t/o sheet that's in perfect condition except it is no longer waterproof. I used the waterproofing that Rambo suggests, cant think of the name right now, but had no success w/that.

    Someone told me Thompson's Water Seal would work. Is this true or do ya'll have some other products that you have been successful with. I DONT want to spend $200 buying another sheet for a retiree who has more outfits than I do!

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    I have an older Rambo t/o sheet that's in perfect condition except it is no longer waterproof. I used the waterproofing that Rambo suggests, cant think of the name right now, but had no success w/that.

    Someone told me Thompson's Water Seal would work. Is this true or do ya'll have some other products that you have been successful with. I DONT want to spend $200 buying another sheet for a retiree who has more outfits than I do!

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    • #3
      I wash and repair blankets for a living. I absolutely would not use Thompson's Water Seal; your sheet will not be breathable if you use that.

      I use the Nikwax Synthetic Rug Proof; it is a wash-in product that I have had much success with. You must use either Rambo Wash or Nikwax Tech Wash before you use the Rug Proof or it will not work.

      Good luck
      Taryn

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        <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by tarynls:
        I wash and repair blankets for a living. I absolutely would not use Thompson's Water Seal; your sheet will not be breathable if you use that.

        I use the Nikwax Synthetic Rug Proof; it is a wash-in product that I have had much success with. You must use either Rambo Wash or Nikwax Tech Wash before you use the Rug Proof or it will not work.

        Good luck
        Taryn<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
        Does this only work on blankets that were once waterproof? Or will it work to waterproof non-waterproof or only water-resistant blankets??


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          Thanks, Taryn for your input. It was the Nikwax waterproofing that I used and I just went into the tack room and read the label again. It only says to use with a CLEAN blanket, not that it HAS to be washed with another Rambo product. What's the big deal w/the blanket having to be also washed with something that Rambo markets? My local tack shop carries the waterproofing, but not the wash stuff.

          Is there another product that will work as well?

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          • #6
            I use campdry, it works just fine. I spray it on my cleaned blankets after they are washed, and let them airdry (and unsmell ) for a day afterward. I don't know it's cost comparison to the nikwax stuff-i also have a gallon of new, non silicone spray waterproofer, which is really nice and smells better. I would never recommend the thompson's either

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            • #7
              Big Belgian, the point is that it has to be clean. Go to your nearest sporting goods/camping store and get some Nikwax wash. Wash the sheet first and then re-waterproof it.

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                Sleepy, OF COURSE my sheet was CLEAN prior to me using the Nikwax waterproofer! Im certainly NOT going to try waterproofing something that was filthy.

                I dont understand why it has to be washed with a specific product, i.e, Nikwax Wash, if the directions on the label only say "clean", not "wash only with Nikwax Wash or this stuff wont work". Nowhere on the label does it even suggest that the waterproofing wont work unless you use their wash. I followed their directions precisely and the waterproofing did not work for me. I wanted to know if anyone had any other success using something else.

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                • #9
                  I don't think it's the specific product so much as it is it has to be a very mild detergent or real soap. And unfortunately that doesn't seem to be available in the supermarket anymore. They've changed the formualtions on Ivory and Dreft.

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                  • #10
                    BB, the "wash" formulated for washing blankets probably cleans better and rinses better from the sheets/blankets than other soaps or detergents creating a foundation that will allow the waterproofing to work to its fullest...

                    I flunked Chemistry class but it just stands to reason that if one would want to use a specific waterproofing product that one would want to use the same brand of "wash" to launder it, if only to ensure success... I'm sure it has something to do with molecules and the process of bonding which I do not understand and, therefore, cannot explain to you... But it's at work!!!

                    I believe it also takes some time for the waterproofing to cure--more than just overnight... If you didn't give it sufficient time to dry and "cure" before sending the blanket out in the rain then this could be another reason why it failed...

                    Perhaps it would be less hassle for you to just send your blankets and sheets out to a horse laundry and have them worry about all that for you!!! Then, if it doesn't work you have someone to blame...

                    Thompson's Water Seal was made for sealing concrete and wood--not for fabrics... Not only that but I would be afraid to put it on my horse with all those chemicals in it--you'd better think long and hard before using that!!!

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                      Thanks, Guys. Sheesh, I didnt realize Id have to have a degree in chemistry in order to water proof a lousy sheet!

                      To top it off, the stinking Goretex sheet that I have has also stopped being waterproof! Both sheets are in perfect repair, perfectly clean and perfectly useless to me as a wet weather turnout.

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                      • #12
                        What you wash it with makes a HUGE difference whether or not the Nikwax waterproofing will "take". The Nikwax Synthetic Rug Proof will work on any synthetic fabric, doesn't matter if it was once waterproof or not.

                        I am actually looking at the label right now and instruction #1 is: "Clean garment first using a non-detergent soap (such as Nikwax Tech Wash)."

                        Regular laundry detergents (Tide, etc..) leave a residue on the fabric and the waterproofing agent cannot penetrate through it.

                        Another important thing to consider with the Nikwax product is for it to work to its fullest, you need to put the sheet in the dryer (on medium or high setting) afterward. They also state that on their label.

                        Good luck...

                        Taryn

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                        • #13
                          OK, so what ARE you supposed to wash blankets with? Are there any "regular" detergents (like Woolite) that can be used?

                          Last time, I think I washed mine in Planet or one of those eco-friendly detergents...

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                          • #14
                            Geez Big Belgian, you've really wrecked my evening. Your GORETEX isn't waterprooof anymore? Good heavens, I thought it was supposed to be so forever. I bought two last year and hoped they would go on and on and on. AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!

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                            • #15
                              Hi !

                              Carr Day and Martin (UK) make a fabulous blanket reproofer ! They also make a blanket refresher which gets rid of "old smell" ...

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                              • #16
                                A great waterproofing spray-on available cheap at wal-mart. It's called silicone water guard. 100% waterproof and breathable. Comes in a can with a bright orange lid. It's also available at some camping stores. Much cheaper than scotchguard but does take 2 cans to do a turnout thoroughly. Some of my rambo's are 12 years old and still going strong.

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                                  Chartley, that's EXACTLY what I wanted to hear! THANK YOU! Im off to Walmart tomorrow.

                                  Sadly, 3dazey, the Goretex bit the dust only after two years of so so water repellancy. I think it was made by Classic. I know it was pretty expensive, like $275.00, and I was sorely disappointed in it. I hope you have better luck w/yours!

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                                  • #18
                                    So far so good with my Gortex. I have some that are going on 4 yr's old. Also made by Classic.
                                    They are turnouts, the outer fabric has lost it's waterproofing, however luckily so far the gortex liner still keeps them dry. I also have used camp dry with Rambo's in the past. Will need to check out the nik wax. Guess I'll have to get out the cheese grater and buy Ivory bars and grate them into the washer. Or is that not pure soap anymore either?

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                                    • #19
                                      Would Orvis work as well, since it seems to be something recommended for washing delicate lace, as well as a product used on the horses themselves??

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                                      • #20
                                        Creseida, Orvis paste is a detergent... When I worked at State Line Tack they told us to tell people that it is a stripper--it will strip off the build-up that you get on your horse from using excessive Show Sheen and those kind of products... Use what you will, but I would contact the company that makes Orvis and run it by them before using it...

                                        If you want to maintain the waterproofing on your sheets and blankets and the warranty has expired you can use Delicare, by Arm and Hammer or Dr. Bronner's Sals Suds (adding a dash of baking soda to help it work) starting with an eighth of a cup and adding more, if necessary...

                                        If your sheet and/or blanket is under warranty you need to use the cleaner and re-proofer that the manufacturer recommends or your warranty will be null and void...

                                        If you are using a spray repellent remember that it cannot be applied if the temp is below 50 degrees... Two light coats applied 24 hours apart is better than one heavy coat and after 48 hours a third coat down the center of the sheet/blanket in about a three foot swath will assure that it will not fail... Allow to dry for 24 more hours and you should be good to go...

                                        Or you could just send it to a horse laundry and forget you ever read this stuff!!! The more research I do the more the more sending out my sheets and blankets to be done by someone else begins to make sense... Doing horse jackets is not for the faint of heart!!! I just did some, so I can say that!!!

                                        BB, I don't think you really need a degree in chemistry to do this stuff--you just need to know what you don't know... When I flunked chemistry I just had to make up my mind that my talent in that area is limited and now before I use anything that requires chemicals I consult my brother-in-law (who is a chemist), my veterinarians (large and small), or the company that makes the product I am interested in using before I do or use anything... Research is my best friend!!! "A man's got to know his limitations!", (if ya know what I mean)...

                                        I wouldn't wash my synthetic sheets/blankets in Woolite... I used to knit and a yarn shop owner told me of an incident where a customer had attempted to wash a cotton sweater she had so lovingly knitted in Woolite and it ate the sweater apart!!!! I am also into learning from others' mistakes as I will never live long enough to make them all myself...

                                        Best of luck to everyone!!!

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