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  • You're right... I jumped off the deep end and for that I apologize. Sorry, but I tend to do that when a snivling whiner who is all talk about how they are entitled to all the freedoms of this country but are UNWILLING to defend those freedoms goes off on another tyraid about how this is a lousy country. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I do believe that if they are that adament about how this country sucks, they need to find a new one. In the All-American way of life... SUE ME!

    ~~ signed by a commissioned officer in the U.S. Army

    If Dressage is a Symphony... Eventing is Rock & Roll!
    "Of course it's hard. It's supposed to be hard. It's the Hard that makes it great."

    "Get up... Get out... Get Drunk. Repeat as needed." -- Spike


    • Thank you Jair!!!!

      My new hero!!!

      ~Insanity is repeating the same behavior over and over and expecting different results~


      • It's not the disagreements that I find personally offensive and unsettling - it's the nastiness of some of the posts and posters.

        I, for one, applaud ClipClop for, at the very least, passionately and eloquently defending her opinion without resorting to the offensive tactics of the purported 'adults' on this BB. Good for you ClipClop.


        • ClipClop -
          What makes America so great is it's willingness to help anyone anywhere in times of need, whether it be humanitarian or defense. No other country can provide assistance to it's allies like the U.S. We are a caring nation who hates evil and longs for justice even if it's on foreign soil.
          It's sad to see such hatred from one of its' own.
          Secretplace Farm - Raising fine paint hunters since 1987


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            Last edited by Goodyfourshoes!; May. 20, 2007, 12:57 AM.


            • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> I do believe that if they are that adament about how this country sucks, they need to find a new one. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
              Maybe it is because I "came of age" in the politically active 60s, but I firmly believe that if you think something about this country "sucks" you should put your energies into (non-violently) changing it.

              TLE, do you really believe that everyone who thinks that the racism and discrimination in this country (in the 50s and 60s as well as now) sucks should have left, instead of trying to change it?

              chief feeder and mucker for Music, Spy, Belle and Tiara. Someone else is now feeding and mucking for Chief and Brain (both foxhunting now).


              • it is NOT the difference in opinion or opinions expressed in which shames me. It is the WAY in which certain people have expressed their opinions here. I think it is true that we all have the right to freedom and free speech. I am an artist and truly feel the right of freedom is so essential to human life. However, it never hurt anyone to use a bit of *class* *thoughtfullness* and *respect* and realize that children and possibly the families or even survivors could be reading this thread. I agree with Coreene when she said we need to keep things in perspective....let's not forget that thousands of people may be dead and they are still working very hard to uncover victims. All I am asking for is a bit of sensitivity. It could've been anyone of us or anyone of our family members in those buildings. Thankfully most of those I know have been found....but I still wait to hear from others...

                [This message was edited by Smart Alec on Sep. 13, 2001 at 04:22 PM.]
                \"Donuts. Is there anything they can\'t do?\"


                • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>TLE, do you really believe that everyone who thinks that the racism and discrimination in this country (in the 50s and 60s as well as now) sucks should have left, instead of trying to change it?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                  No, but like the military who are willing to defend our way of life, the people you refer to are willing to DO something for the betterment of the country...not just complain about it.

                  If Dressage is a Symphony... Eventing is Rock & Roll!
                  "Of course it's hard. It's supposed to be hard. It's the Hard that makes it great."

                  "Get up... Get out... Get Drunk. Repeat as needed." -- Spike


                  • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ClipClop:

                    And I'm not sorry I said I could never send my loved ones to war. Sorry I'm so selfish. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif[/img] ~<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                    War is terrible. That's what makes it a thing to be avoided. Unfortunately, there are events that will trigger war, and then, guess what? You don't have the 'choice' about sending your loved ones. They go anyway! Some choose to go (watch the recruiting numbers go up over the next few weeks). Some will be drafted (if necessary). Some will resist, and will be shamed and hated by those whose families have made the greatest sacrifice. Some will be unable to fight and they will feel guilty and angry that they cannot show their patriotism like their peers do. These (if they are 'sound' looking) will also be hated and shamed by people who are not aware of the underlying medical conditions that prevent them from volunteering.

                    My parents fought in WWII. My oldest brothers were involved in the Viet Nam War; the youngest had a low draft number and signed up for the Navy making it a career for almost 30 years now. He was caught up in Desert Storm. My nephew, who was top of his Ivy League school class went on an ROTC scholarship and couldn't wait to be commissioned into the Marines. He's fresh out of boot camp, and I can tell you this - right now he is so glad that when the President gives the order, he will be in a position to defend this country.

                    While you are busy forming your opinions, take a moment to be really, really thankful for the people who just don't 'get' where you're coming from, and boldly go forward to protect those at home. May you grow old enough to experience something in your life that is worth fighting for. Even if it's only the abused child, dog, or mistreated horse next door.

                    "Always look on the bright side of life, de doo, de doo de doo de doo"
                    ~Kryswyn~ Always look on the bright side of life, de doo, de doo de doo de doo
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                    "Life is merrier with a terrier!"


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                      Last edited by Goodyfourshoes!; May. 20, 2007, 12:57 AM.


                      • Thank you, Kryswyn, that was very well said.
                        'Computers are useless. They can only give you answers.'
                        - Pablo Picasso


                        • You hit the nail on the head!! Thank you!

                          Barb [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]


                          • Axiom:

                            "I may not agree with what you say, but I defend to the death your right to say it."

                            1st Corollary

                            "If you make extreme or controversial statements, some people on the BB will, of course, disagree with you, perhaps vehemently."

                            2nd Corollary

                            "But, if you make inflammatory statements directed at others personally in an obnoxious manner, expect that many people on the BB will nail you to the wall for it (the rest are biting their tongues really hard)."


                            What kind of discussion or dialog do you really want to have here?

                            A) Negative, destructive, insulting, vitriolic, etc.

                            B) Postive, constructive, civil, enlightening, etc.

                            Colin we know will vote for A ( [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img] xoxo NPF, welcome back, Colin).

                            I concurred with Worthy on another thread that I felt like hugging everyone I knew...however, now I feel like shaking some of you (in a loving and constructive manner of course [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] ). I enjoy hearing everyone's opinions, thoughts and feelings, but it's very wearying trying to dig the substance of these out of extreme rhetoric... [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]

                            As Jair and others have pointed out, everyone's feelings are running pretty high. But please, let's not continue to attack each other.
                            Tinwhistle Farm


                            • I think a lot of people forget that America is a baby. Compared to other countries it is still very new. It has managed to become such a world power so quicky because we have been willing to make mistakes and learn from them. To me America is like a boyfriend or a husband. God knows they aren't perfect and they do make mistakes. But when ever they are threatened you would willingly die for them. It isn't really realistic to say one country is better than another. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I think what does make America a beautiful place to live is that although we aren't perfect we do strive for perfection and are willing to listen to the American people in hopes of getting as close to perfect as we can get.

                              >>>"Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken"<<<


                              • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Houdini:
                                I think a lot of people forget that America is a baby. Compared to other countries it is still very new. <<<<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                                For those of you who've read Harry Potter, sometimes America seems a little like Hagrid--a big overgrown kid who *means* well, but doesn't always fully appreciate the consequences of his actions until all hell has broken loose, and then goes all out to fix it. Who is also loving and loyal to his friends, and fiercely protective.
                                For all his faults, someone you want in your corner when it comes to a fight.
                                "It's like a Russian nesting doll of train wrecks."--CaitlinandTheBay

                                ...just settin' on the Group W bench.


                                • Harry Potter are the best books! I can't wait to see the movie!

                                  Robby Coltrane will be the perfct Hagrid don't you think? [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif[/img]

                                  Interesting analogy Ghazzu [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]
                                  You Strike Me Still


                                  • Much to the dismay of some people out here...I'm sure. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]

                                    I just had work to do and this country needs to keep functioning so the bad guys DO NOT win this one. (And I'm going to still stand by the point that I don't think my opinions were out of line.)

                                    Now, as for Colin Powell, I think he is well qualified (as qualified, and more so, than many of our past presidents) and I also like his personality and most of all his character. I think he is an upstanding man who thinks first and acts second (he's been through enough and understands the repercussions--first hand, in war). He is the sort of person I feel we want representing us. I'm sure he's human and not perfect, but darn it all, he's got integrity!

                                    And, obviously, I will not sign the agreement that is also out here. Not because I want to stir the pot or leave the country, but because I was born and raised in this country, lived through wars and bad political moves and representation, and I want to stay here and maintain my rights to freedom. I want to be able to wave the flag, and I want to also be able to disagree with our government's decisions.

                                    I want it all...the way it's guaranteed in our constitution.
                                    "And I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling." - Capt Reynolds "Firefly"


                                    • PT, Velvet - I also would like to see Colin Powell as president. Because of how well he can size up a situation and take proper, effective, corrective action to tough situations. However since he was born in Jamaca, he can't be elected president. But if they would change that rule you bet I would vote for him without a second thought. I felt so during the liberation of Kuwait and I think so now.
                                      A pussycat of a horse with a chewed off tail won the triple crown, The Cubs won the world series and Trump won the Presidency.
                                      Don't tell me 'It can't be done.'


                                      • I had a Social Studies teacher in high school who often quoted the line "Question Authority" I forgot who the quote is origionally from. But I remember to this day how much this teacher stressed that the only way to maintain our freedom was to question authority. I find this to be true in many ways. She always stressed that questioning wasn't the same as protesting or fighting against. Questioning meant that you demand to be told why decisions were made and not just accept things because you were told to. I would fight and die for my country but I sure as heck want to know why I'm doing it. I think you (Velvet) would have liked my teacher a lot.

                                        >>>"Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken"<<<


                                        • and 5 -- good news. He was born in New York. He can be President!