• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.

Announcement

Collapse

Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

The media blitz needs to STOP NOW!!

Collapse
This topic is closed.
X
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • #41
    Gee, Velvet, I'm sure that the member of Jennasis' staff that's missing has a "problem" with being in danger too.

    It's part of their job. Same as the war photographers. There's a reason for the saying that a picture is worth a thousand words.

    I think I'd better go post on the "I pledge" thread before I say what I really think...

    Comment


    • #42
      <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> How does this differ from showing the towers being hit or collapsing? Were the deaths of those people less horrific? Less real? Does seeing an image of a person somehow make their tragedy more real? Is that a reasonable response?
      <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

      DMK, my thoughts exactly. I was there, I witnessed it firsthand. I still watch the TV - and each time I see those planes crash, it is no less horiffic. This is probably the hugest tragedy EVER, in the history of the world. I think that it is important that people realize just how horrible this is. If it is too much for you, turn off the TV.

      Comment


      • #43
        turn the tv off or watch another channel. People have the right to know what is going on and censorship is not the answer.
        Freedom of Speech.
        \"Donuts. Is there anything they can\'t do?\"
        ~Homer

        Comment


        • #44
          I say, thank goodness we DO have photographers, reporters, etc. who are able to do their jobs, unlike in other countries. I find myself glued to CNN, but have taken breaks from time to time. I agree with others who have said that these films, photos, etc. are imperative. They will forever document this awful time in history. And we are so lucky to live in a country who allows this type of news to be known.
          \"Riding a horse is not a gentle hobby, to be picked up and laid down like a game of solitaire. It is a grand passion. It seizes a person whole and, once it has done so, he will have to accept that his life will be radically changed.\" -- Ralph Waldo E

          Comment

          • Original Poster

            #45
            That's part of the problem...there's no other channel to turn to.

            And, I've never said you can't turn off the TV, but there are many people in this world who have a 7th grade (or lower) level of education (as proven by journalisms writing standards), and they are the ones who might not understand the implications of watching something like this repeated constantly.

            I just worry that those people (who are considered the majority) are going to push for a war or something else that's possibly not rational. Oh, someone will be "removed from this planet" for what happened. But will it require war to satiate a blood lust that is derived from the constant bombardment of these images? Something that might require the death of thousands of innocents, without serving the purpose we intend (of removing the leader of a terrorist group)?

            I think this is why I at least want them to move on and get into the recovery part, and show the good more than the bad, at the moment. We have all seen it, we are all mourning, but we also need to know what is happening NOW.

            Like I keep saying...JMHO.
            "And I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling." - Capt Reynolds "Firefly"

            Comment


            • #46
              Uh, Velvet, just turn OFF your TV if you're overloaded.

              I think we need all of the coverage. We need to continue to be bombarded, and saddened, and angered. if we're not, then we risk going back to complacency in our nice little American bubble worlds.

              But, you have the ability to turn it off if you need a break. I did last night--no TV, no radio. I needed that, too.
              Visit the County Island, home of Whiskey the ranch horse: http://countyisland.wordpress.com
              Visit him on Facebook:
              http://www.facebook.com/WhiskeyRanch-Horse

              Comment


              • #47
                We are hearing what is happening now. Most of the coverage is very current and forward-looking. Lots of it is about what is open and closed, roads, trains, airports, etc.

                If you have no other TV channels, how about renting a movie? That's what I've done the past two nights and it has helped give me respite.

                Comment


                • #48
                  While I don't always agree with the media coverage of events - I value the fact that what I see is not censured by the people who don't want to see it and therefore think that I shouldn't see it.
                  That TV has an OFF switch - I use it a lot.

                  BarbB

                  www.tapestry659.50megs.com
                  Nina's Story
                  Epona Comm on FB

                  Comment

                  • Original Poster

                    #49
                    And I finally found it:

                    Europe in Mourning

                    JMHO
                    "And I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling." - Capt Reynolds "Firefly"

                    Comment


                    • #50
                      Well, Julie... it's like The Boss (Springsteen) said... 67 channels and nothing on... [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]

                      (oh, how out of date that song is! [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] Shouldn't it be 967 channels and nothing on?)

                      I was going to note that out of 500 plus channels, there were about 10 channels with continuous newscasts, the other channels were back to regular broadcasts (most never left it), but that presupposes one has a dish or cable...
                      Your crazy is showing. You might want to tuck that back in.

                      Comment


                      • #51
                        I don't think that the people with 7th grade educations have the clout to affect what the U.S. politicians choose to do in response to the recent attack, so I'm not overly concerned about their watching the news non-stop. And, at the risk of sounding disgustingly DQish, they probably tire of this sort of news quickly and run out and rent an Arnold Schwarzenegger movie. (See Suzy duck!) [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]

                        The decision makers in our country (even if you didn't vote for them) are intelligent, well-educated people who better understand the international implications than any of us can (um, generic us. I'm sure there are probably some Middle Eastern scholars here who understand the situation quite well).

                        What I would like to see on the news in the near future is more history on the Middle Eastern conflict(s), the players, and what people in the know think should be the U.S.'s reponse to this. We needed to see what had happened and to take the time to grieve. Then, it's important to move forward and figure out how to handle what has happened.

                        Comment


                        • #52
                          I took the Pledge , so I will not be able to say what I truly want to say.

                          Velvet, turn the damn thing off and have the decency to feel what might be going on in someone else's life.

                          "The older I get, the better I used to be, but who the heck cares!"
                          \"The older I get, the better I used to be, but who the heck cares!\"

                          Comment


                          • #53
                            Velvet...you want them to move on?????? ohmygoodness Velvet people are MISSING!! Many people do not know if their families are dead or alive!!!! They are showing their pictures on TV, hoping someone sees them. I don't think they are quite ready to move on...and I am sure that they would hope people would be more interested in this disaster, and their search for loved ones, than in reruns of Friends. This is not over. It is happening right now. As many people have stated, we are VERY lucky to have access to truthful and accurate media reports, not government regulated propeganda. This is news that is always changing, there are always new developments. I, for one, am very interested. And as for those with 7th grade educations, maybe they will learn something by watching this coverage. I am sure there are many out there who have no idea where the middle east is even located. People need to learn.

                            Comment


                            • #54
                              "Smart Alec

                              That's part of the problem...there's no other channel to turn to."

                              So do something else. I don't have cable so most of the channels I get are network channels where, yes, most of what's on is news. Still, there ARE other things on. You could also rent a movie, go for a walk, ride your horse, go out to eat, get a cup of coffee---all things I have done myself when I need a break. Don't blame the news because you don't have enough self control to turn away. As for other adults watching...well, whether they have a good education or not....that is their right as Americans to keep in touch with what is going on.
                              Goin' back to the pledge thread now... [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif[/img]
                              \"Donuts. Is there anything they can\'t do?\"
                              ~Homer

                              Comment


                              • #55
                                ..."people with seventh grade educations" may not need or want any one of us here on a horse bulletin board to decide what news is best for "them" to receive, and what format is best for "them" to be exposed to. Lack of formal education does not necessarily mean lack of intelligence or inability to process emotional or other information. (I'm stopping here.)

                                As far as "clout" goes, everyone gets to vote.

                                As far as knowledge of Middle Eastern life and politics, many well-educated posters here are far less well-informed than they might be (including myself), and are happy to opine nonetheless.

                                As far as warmongering and hostility--both of which are subject to personal interpretation as we have seen right here in the last few days--I'm not sure that that will divide along educational lines...

                                I am certain that extensive media coverage, analysis, and discussion of many issues associated with this disaster and its implications for our country will continue for a long while.

                                We can ALL learn more about terrorism and we most probably will in the future.
                                Tinwhistle Farm

                                Comment

                                • Original Poster

                                  #56
                                  On the "moving on" comment, I meant move on to the CURRENT news! Not leave the topic entirely, but cover what is being done now, and stop rehashing the crashes at the moment.

                                  Don't you want to hear about the survivors and the recovery of the dead? Yes, I see you do. That was exactly my point.
                                  "And I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling." - Capt Reynolds "Firefly"

                                  Comment


                                  • #57
                                    Velvet, what the hell channel are you watching? I have seen constant coverage about the rescue efforts, innumerable stories about families searching for their loved ones, and numerous mentions of the support from overseas that was mentioned in the CNN article you posted.

                                    Yeah, they're still showing the crash footage. They're still talking about people's escapes from the towers. And three days after the fact, that footage and those stories are still incredibly powerful.

                                    I'm honestly sitting here shaking my head, without a clue what you're complaining about. All I can say is that I sure as hell don't want to be subjected to the sanitized and artificially cheerful "news" that you seem to want. Just give me the real news, and I'll sort through it on my own.

                                    Comment


                                    • #58
                                      "Not leave the topic entirely, but cover what is being done now, and stop rehashing the crashes at the moment."
                                      That seems to be what they ARE doing.
                                      Also, well said Erin, those images are ones we will not and, to be honest, should not forget.
                                      \"Donuts. Is there anything they can\'t do?\"
                                      ~Homer

                                      Comment


                                      • #59
                                        What Erin said!!!!!!!!!

                                        Comment


                                        • #60
                                          NEVER FORGET

                                          Comment

                                          Working...
                                          X