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  1. #61
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    Good Gawd,
    How can anyone disect this amazing creature?

    all around - hello??? Your posting on a dressage forum!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Those that like him probably dont give a rats buttooie if he'd hack out.

    But I will bet my bottom dollar that he does.



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    i haven't been on any 3 yr olds of this calibre, but did ride a lesser sort of 3 yr old of similar breeding, but not same quality, around at a big show in the warmup area a couple weeks ago.

    shocking, really, the difference that carefully selected temperament can make in how readily a 3 year old accustoms himself to a show area. shocking. he just puffed himself up and said 'well, look at me!' and did his thing. not a nervous bone in his body.

    of course, it makes a big difference who is riding the 3 year old, too, and who starts him. an experienced rider with years of show experience and years of experience with this sort of horse inspires a horse and calms him, and correct aids and retaining the attention of the animal make a huge difference in how they behave at these things.

    of course the girl who had trained the one i tried, is a former YR now very quickly establishing herself in the top shows in the usa, and it was nothing for her to bring a 3 year old to a show. she's been doing it for a very long time. these people are very good at what they do.
    Last edited by slc2; Nov. 29, 2006 at 03:20 PM.



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    Quote Originally Posted by katarine View Post
    IThose of you bothering to converse with Too Simple, save your breath. She would argue that Miller Lite and CheezWhiz is far superior to champagne and caviar, if only because she just got a good deal on the former, at Costco.
    Yeah, and what good is White Star and caviar if you can't pack it on a trail ride?

    Two Simp and Daydream ... I'm all for versatility. I have a horse who won under saddle breed classes, halter classes, did great at our first dressage show AND trail rides like a champ. But he isn't a stallion quality WB with gaits like that.

    The horse is a heart-stopping mover and looks to have a good mind, besides. Can't you just appreciate him for that?
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    in the trot he steps to the outside of his track with his outside hind.
    Lengthen will be hard for him if he is not completely straight.



    HAHAHAHHAAA!

    freakin amazing. Perfect breeding and a little help from God.

    and anyway...why would you want to WASTE a horse like this on trail rides???

    Boy I bet he can JUMP! Holly Cows!
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    And if he does all that at THREE, just exactly how long has been working under saddle, and how long will he stay sound?? Or is that why dressage horses commonly receive hock injections as part of normal and customary care?
    gee, I had no idea that dressage horse were commonly getting hock injections.
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    Bogey, don't feed the troll!



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    Geez guys... I don't particularly agree with Two Simple's thoughts, but can't we disagree like a bunch of adults?

    I mean really, with the nasty comments, some of you might as well be calling her a no-nothing-redneck-Arab-owning-trail-rider.

    Are the parallels to Miller Light and Costco really relevant or necessary?

    It reeks of the same elitist snobbery that chases so many people off this board. I agree he's beautiful, but do we have to go to the "if you disagree, you clearly know NOTHING" argument? I thought I left that behind in 7th grade.



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    Well, for me personally, I like a nice all round horse that's safe on the trails and will pack my kids around the ring on the odd occasion when they feel like getting on a horse.

    But it really is totally irrelevant whether this horse could/would be able to do that job, because there are millions of nice, quiet trail horses out there, and only a handful of absolutely top level competitive dressage horses. Which means that nice quiet trail horses are relatively cheap, and horses like this are unaffordable for ordinary mortals anyhow, so it's not like there's any chance whatsoever of some amateur snapping up this boy and turning him into a trail horse!

    I will never own a horse like this, I will never even sit on a horse like this, and at my age I feel no particular desire to.

    But I hope I never get so old and bored that I can't look at a horse like this and feel my heart beat a bit faster, and feel a tingle down my spine. Horses like this are like a piece of sculpture by Michelangelo - you don't have to have it sitting in your living room in order to appreciate it and feel the world is a better place for its very existence.

    You don't have to ride a horse like this to be thrilled by its presence.



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    Quote Originally Posted by mp View Post
    Two Simp and Daydream ... I'm all for versatility. I have a horse who won under saddle breed classes, halter classes, did great at our first dressage show AND trail rides like a champ. But he isn't a stallion quality WB with gaits like that.

    The horse is a heart-stopping mover and looks to have a good mind, besides. Can't you just appreciate him for that?
    I give up. Please go back and read what I wrote carefully. I did appreciate him for his movement, his talent, and his looks but I only said he wasn't for me. OK???? Did I say one thing about his mind anywhere? NO!

    I will publically say for everyone to read so you all will let it go...and quit harping that someone dared to express an opinion other than one you agree with.

    I AM SORRY I OFFERED ANY CRITICISM OR NEGATIVE COMMENTARY WHATSOEVER OF THIS PHENOMINAL EXAMPLE OF A WARMBLOOD!!! HE IS PERFECT, WONDERFUL, ABSOLUTELY WITHOUT FLAW, AND WE SHOULD ALL DROOL MINDLESSLY OVER HIS PERFECTION WITHOUT SUGGESTING THAT HE MIGHT NOT BE THE HORSE OF OUR DREAMS.

    Now...can you all please just respect someone's right to have a different opinion and state it once in a while?



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    Smile WHAT????????????

    Quote Originally Posted by Two Simple View Post
    Really? Hmm.

    Even though he is unproven? Even though there are no other offspring to compare to? How do you know his genetic prepotence? Are you certain he will pass on big elastic gaits to his offspring? Not all do you know. Are you certain that he will complement your mare's weaknesses? How do you know what traits he will throw and which he won't?

    This is exactly how so many babies end up on auction blocks and standing in back yards in knee deep mud with halter scars.

    Everybody says "OOoooooooh!! Preeeeeeeeeeeety pony!!!! And he has BALLS! Come on mare, get in the trailer!!"
    If you have a boy that moves like that....how do you find out what he is going to throw unless he gets babys on the ground??????

    That usually takes mares????????

    If you are a responsible breeder, like myself, you would pick a mare that would match his type------and look for a stallion that would improve gaits----he got, what a 10 on gaits--my mare got 8's and 9's...that is improvement and near perfection.

    I'm sure we wouldn't have a donkey crossing the two.



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    day dream believer, it looks more like yiou are having a hissy fit because someone didn't agree with YOU than the other way around.



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    Oh my. What an gorgeous horse. My ass hurt just watching that trot!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Horsecrazy27 View Post
    I'm sure we wouldn't have a donkey crossing the two.
    Are you kidding? I totally want a mule by this stallion! Don't discriminate against donkeys!
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    I think he's amazing! The rest of the controversy is a bit ...

    Two Simple- I can't quite figure it out- Do you ride Dressage? Did you and now you have a great dislike for it? If you don't, what do you do now with you horse(s)? You seem to have a really strong and kind of negative spin on all of the dressage threads...NOT trying to attack- just curious! Sometimes I look at a pic or a video and I just don't see it the way you do at all!



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    Quote Originally Posted by caffeinated View Post
    Are you kidding? I totally want a mule by this stallion! Don't discriminate against donkeys!

    LOL That would be a hinny, not a mule. Gotta be donkey sire/mare dam for a mule. I'm told hinnies are more difficult to produce. I assume they use AI these days. Stallions apparently don't particularly care to breed jennies. Friend was looking at some v. nice saddle mules and asked about hinnies and the mule breeder said, "Oh, no, you don't want a hinny" but he didn't elaborate.



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    This is an absolutely incredible horse by ANY standard - absolutely incredible. Also very impressive how quiet he seems to be in face of a huge, roaring crowd.

    Thanks for posting this video - I've forwarded the link to several friends who I think will appreciate this horse as much as most of us here have.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Two Simple View Post
    Repeat after me - HOCK INJECTIONS.

    The horse is bloody 3 years old ferchristsake. THREE. He's doing all this under saddle at 3??? When did they start him? 2? 2 1/2?
    Just how long do you think it takes to get a young horse going w/t/c under saddle, anyway? That's all this horse is doing. It's not a year and a half long process...with a competent trainer.



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    He is breathtaking. I bet he has a fabulous jump in him also. So so athletic. And I'm no dressage diva, I'm from H/J land.



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    Two Simple, I have a news flash for you.

    Starting horses at 2 is not a new trend. Back in the days when horses were true beasts of burden, there weren't that many folks who could afford the luxury of waiting until their horse reached the ripe old age of 3 or 4 to start them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Two Simple View Post
    He's doing all this under saddle at 3??? When did they start him? 2? 2 1/2?
    You don't know this. A really nice horse (not even nearly the quality of this one!) ridden by a tactful rider can produce these results after a very few number of short rides. I see really nice babies who are basically on the bit WTC after a dozen rides. Good horse + good rider = it happens naturally. It may be hard for you to believe if you've never seen it, but it's true.



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