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  1. #1
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    Default The truth about the death of Barbaro

    My sentiments exactly. Go to the link below and read the second article on the page where it starts "The Death Of Barbaro."
    http://www.thesportstruth.com/categories/barbaro/

    Barbaro had an unfortunate accident. Why can't everyone leave it at that? In my opinion, the purpose of a healer is not to prolong suffering. All horses are equally important. But I guess the great ones deserve to suffer. I think I know why.

    Cubs



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    Quote Originally Posted by Cubs View Post
    Barbaro had an unfortunate accident. Why can't everyone leave it at that?
    Cubs
    erm............... so why did you post then???? It was you that brought the subject up!!!!



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    Default I have to admit I agree...

    this is why I will never go to a horse race, or watch the Kentucky Derby or any of the big races on TV -



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    Quote Originally Posted by Cubs View Post
    My sentiments exactly. Go to the link below and read the second article on the page where it starts "The Death Of Barbaro."
    http://www.thesportstruth.com/categories/barbaro/

    Barbaro had an unfortunate accident. Why can't everyone leave it at that? In my opinion, the purpose of a healer is not to prolong suffering. All horses are equally important. But I guess the great ones deserve to suffer. I think I know why.

    Cubs
    OMG that guy could not be a bigger **ick if he tried!

    Glad to know you agree with him.....just one more person on this board that I can ignore their posts entirely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flshgordon View Post
    OMG that guy could not be a bigger **ick if he tried!

    Glad to know you agree with him.....just one more person on this board that I can ignore their posts entirely.
    I'm glad you took the time to write that you're ingoring me.



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    You are a piece of work. Or, put slightly differently, a whack job. Where would we all be with out the muckracking loonies with secret knowledge and an axe to grind? The world would be ever so much duller...please carry on.
    Click here before you buy.



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    Quote Originally Posted by deltawave View Post
    You are a piece of work. Or, put slightly differently, a whack job. Where would we all be with out the muckracking loonies with secret knowledge and an axe to grind? The world would be ever so much duller...please carry on.
    Delta-Wave what's that flower you are on
    Could you sniff it in your nose and get a high?
    I really do not mind
    You think I have an axe to grind
    I wish we all can see you roll your eyes. (instead of that clever smiley face you creatively inserted)

    EVERYBODY!! On Three!

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    It's so nice when my distrust and disbelief in chiropractic and those who practice it is justified.



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    You guys are so funny! You go Cubs! LOL



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    That article is the biggest pile of crap I've ever seen, written by one of the most ignorant morons I've ever been exposed to. GAG.
    She wasn't running away with me, I just couldn't stop her!



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    Cubs, I'm a BIG fan of good chiropractic work, and I have your book and video, but honestly, you are doing your profession a huge disservice and turning people off of it out of principle if nothing else. It's like some commercials I see out there - so incredibly annoying they make me not want to buy the product because OF the commercial!


    Do you ever wonder how many "sick" horses were used as subjects to further the knowledge of chiropractic work? I bet more than one.

    Do you ever wonder how and why we have so many wonderful techniques to aid injured horses today? Because of horses like Barbaro and the $$ of people like his owners.

    Think of the good things that have been learned in treating Barbaro. Look at what became of trying to save Ruffian.
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    I thought both those articles were hilarious.

    I think the Barbaro Show needs to be well and truely over.. People who still post on the internet about how teary they are whenever they read something about Barbaro...The people who continue to post about Barbaro every single day.. FFS people! Light your candle for something else now. It's OVER. Go mourn a family member or pet that you actually KNEW.



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    I don't agree with the whole "all racing is bad, get off the high horse, blah blah blah" but I *do* agree that the general public is a little misinformed about racing in general. A lot of people I am acquainted with who don't follow racing were aghast when it happened, like it was some one-in-a-million tragedy. Which I am sure everyone here will agree is not the case, it DOES happen all the time, he is right about that. It certainly isn't feasible to limelight *every* horse it happens to, of course.

    As for the "inhumane, forced nature" of racing, PSSH. Tell that to our 7-y-o gelding with a strained tendon who is absolutely bouncing off the walls to go back out and race, and is bewildered beyond belief when all he is allowed to do is jog. He loves to race. Of *course* he would be fine without it, but he certainly isn't being forced into something he doesn't want to do. Sometimes, things.just.happen. Rather than shun racing as an inhumane sport, point the finger at the owners/trainers that misuse/mismanage horses, not at (from all appearances, at least in this case) good trainers who undergo unfortunate circumstances like this. Misdirected rabidity isn't going to do anyone any good.



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    Coup, you and I don't see eye to eye on much, but dang woman, that post was great!



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    The author of the second article hasn't met many (if any) real live race horses before. If I recall, the jockey had a hard time pulling Barbaro up when he broke his leg. When they don't want to run, no amount of whipping will get them across the finish line any faster.

    I wish he'd seen my OTTB at an endurance ride when he was trying to hit 40 mph while I was standing in my stirrups trying to get him to stop! And this was after 5 miles of fast-paced work! My horse scared the $%* out of me, because we weren't on nicely groomed dirt--we were galloping hell bent for leather across a meadow!!

    I wish people who wrote these kind of articles had a better understanding of the animals they imagine are being abused. Perhaps if the author had the b*lls to work at a racing barn for a few weeks or months, I might believe his take on racing. Chances are, all he's done is gotten carpal tunnel syndrome from typing at a keyboard all day and the most exercise he gets is letting his imagination wander.

    We all know that horses get abused at the track (more likely in the barns than in front of thousands of onlookers) and that there are horrific accidents. But for heaven's sake, RESEARCH so that the article is at least credible!! Talk about the real problems, not use Barbaro as a crutch. There are plenty of stories that need to be told and can be done in a good manner that will focus publicity where it can do some good.



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    Quote Originally Posted by JB View Post
    Cubs, I'm a BIG fan of good chiropractic work, and I have your book and video, but honestly, you are doing your profession a huge disservice and turning people off of it out of principle if nothing else. It's like some commercials I see out there - so incredibly annoying they make me not want to buy the product because OF the commercial!


    Do you ever wonder how many "sick" horses were used as subjects to further the knowledge of chiropractic work? I bet more than one.

    Do you ever wonder how and why we have so many wonderful techniques to aid injured horses today? Because of horses like Barbaro and the $$ of people like his owners.

    Think of the good things that have been learned in treating Barbaro. Look at what became of trying to save Ruffian.
    No one is saying that horses don't greatly contribute to the advancement of medicine. But I think it was just plain cruelty to keep Barbaro alive, rather, suffering, as long as he did--REGARDLESS OF THEIR MOTIVES. If he would have been any other horse, he would have been put down long before. It was Barbaro's MISFORTURE that his owners were rich and was, from what I read, insured for so much.
    Incidently, I hope you're enjoying the book and video. Both are still great sellers, but will soon be out of print--in about three weeks and no longer availabe. I no longer conduct seminars and I made the decision to take both out of circulation.
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    You know, I think it would be great sport to publicly drag those horribly money grubbing, sadistic Jacksons through the mud again. I say BRAVO! Let's do it! I only hope that horses are so fortunate to get treated the way Barbaro was! While we are at it, let's call into credibility the caring and self interest of his doctors. After all, if it wasn't the money and the Jackson's it must have been the publicity seeking doctor.

    While we are at it, let's all join PITA in a round of "riding horses is cruel". You know I had a horse who died in a round pen accident, therefore all round pen's are bad. I had another horse go lame at a show jumping competition, so that must be bad too. OH forgot, I had another break a leg right when Barbaro did, so we should condemn what he was doing too......oops, he was in turn out, can't do that.

    Seriously, there are problems in racing, no doubt but rest assured that Barbaro isn't so much an example of what is wrong, as what is right. Save your hurt feelings for the poor $2500 claimer at Prescott Downs.
    Last edited by Rubs Not Pats; May. 25, 2007 at 01:42 AM. Reason: The more angry I get, the worse I spell



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    Choo-choo. I've got chocolate, popcorn & margartias, I'm set.



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    this thread is bound to have the drama-llama appear...
    There's coffee in that nebula.



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    Who is "cubs" and what is he/she/it doing here, in Horse Care?
    Barbaro Cultist, Metabolic Nazi



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