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    Exclamation Vegans rejoice, study shows meat causes cancer.

    Yes, that is what this new study proposes, cancer and heart disease and diabetes and purple polka dots too.

    No, not really, but I guarantee you every vegan web site will treat this study as the new addition to their Bible of why rabbit food is the sacred grail all need to bow to:

    http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandst...ancer-diabetes

    This is a new study and it will be discussed all over with the idea that "meat causes cancer" in every title and that is what everyone that reads this will remember, true or not.

    The study is invalidated by the ones bringing that study out using old, questionable data to come to that conclusion.

    As any doctor, nutritionist and scientist involved in these kinds of research today will tell you, for normal individuals, eating light and from varied produce is still really the best nutritional advice, not go down the road of any restrictive diets.

    Not that it seems we do stay on those anyway, although many meant to do so, just never quite get around staying on course for long.



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    Oh well, ya gotta die of something anyway and I LOVE beef!!!
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    Back in my day, we didn't have as many warning labels because people weren't so dang stupid!


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    Hear hear, msj!
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    I read the study as well. However higher protein after the age of 65 is beneficial.
    "We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals." ~Immanuel Kant



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    Oh, puleeze!


    Maybe the meat producers will sue them, like they did Oprah after she said she would not eat any more hambugers.
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    Throw me a big ol' T-bone onto the grill! YOLO!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Foxtrot's View Post
    Oh, puleeze!


    Maybe the meat producers will sue them, like they did Oprah after she said she would not eat any more hambugers.
    Well, that is not why they sued her, but I sure hope no one does, that was a stupid idea.
    You won't hear Oprah complaining, that is what started her career take-off in the national eye and she took it off from there, didn't she.



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    Damn! I was so looking forward to my baby back ribs tonight lol



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    Quote Originally Posted by spotted draft x filly View Post
    Damn! I was so looking forward to my baby back ribs tonight lol
    Yum!

    If you do not want to eat them you can send them my way.


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    Lol Trub! I think my hubby would never forgive me if I did that!



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    Oh Brother! According to most of these folks life causes cancer.
    I swear all this crap is just a way to get the masses in hysteria.
    Better go check my roast in the crock pot! Lots of veggies too~
    "you can only ride the drama llama so hard before it decides to spit in your face." ?Caffeinated.


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    I have a friend that tells me she wants a study showing that eating a diet of all chocolate is what she is waiting for.


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    Well, it says a diet *high* in animal protein. Can anyone find out that %?



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    Quote Originally Posted by S1969 View Post
    Well, it says a diet *high* in animal protein. Can anyone find out that %?
    Good question.
    I looked for it and this is the study:

    http://www.cell.com/cell-metabolism/...2814%2900062-X

    Critics are saying that they based the study on statistics decades old from old studies where people had responded to questions of what they ate and then, years later, other researchers looked to see how many were still alive and what the dead ones died from.

    Not really the kind of data you want to hang your research data on, is what detractors are saying.
    The methodology invalidates the results.
    The study then becomes a theory searching for validation, with questionable results.



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    I want to study that shows sour cream is the new super food


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    I gotta say, as a vegetarian, I really don't care all that much what other people eat. It's not like you get negative calorie points whenever you convert someone.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lin View Post
    I want to study that shows sour cream is the new super food
    But only organic sour cream, from cows that you can be 100% sure have never eaten a bite of grass that might be GMO contaminated.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Highflyer View Post
    I gotta say, as a vegetarian, I really don't care all that much what other people eat. It's not like you get negative calorie points whenever you convert someone.
    That is a brilliant idea, negative calorie points.
    You ought to do a study and patent that.

    Seriously, maybe meat does or does not cause cancer, that we really don't know enough to say, but this study sure is not the one to tell us with certainty that it does.



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    there's a study out there showing that eating chocolate makes you lose weight. Seriously. I make no claims as to its validity.

    most of these nutrition studies are so flawed it's ridiculous. They used to think red meat caused cancer, then they figured out no, it was other things that correlated with meat-eating: apparently back then (and possibly today) people who liked to eat red meat also liked to eat french fries, smoke, drink beer, and avoid eating veggies. Oh, and throw the meat on the grill and create carcinogenic burnt meat while drinking beer and standing in the carcinogenic sunlight and breathing carcinogenic smoke from the grill + ciggies. It's not the meat, in other words.



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    Quote Originally Posted by wendy View Post
    there's a study out there showing that eating chocolate makes you lose weight. Seriously. I make no claims as to its validity.

    most of these nutrition studies are so flawed it's ridiculous. They used to think red meat caused cancer, then they figured out no, it was other things that correlated with meat-eating: apparently back then (and possibly today) people who liked to eat red meat also liked to eat french fries, smoke, drink beer, and avoid eating veggies. Oh, and throw the meat on the grill and create carcinogenic burnt meat while drinking beer and standing in the carcinogenic sunlight and breathing carcinogenic smoke from the grill + ciggies. It's not the meat, in other words.
    I think that is exactly what the ones being critical of that study are saying.
    It was not a properly controlled set of data they used for their conclusions.



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