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  1. #21
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    There is no such thing as "free".

    Somewhere along the line somebody paid. And that is not free.


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    Quote Originally Posted by supershorty628 View Post
    Birth control isn't anywhere close to free

    My BC, with my insurance, is $50 a month.
    I second this.
    With my plan they are covered, that does not make it anywhere near free.



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    Quote Originally Posted by independentlyawesome View Post
    Solid plan

    I don't really understand why people object to children seeing condoms. I would want my children to grow up understanding what a condom is and why people use it. They can make their own choices & mistakes, but I don't want them to do so out of ignorance.
    Some of us think sex is a dirty word. That's why.
    "We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals." ~Immanuel Kant


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    for goodness sake, children see ads for Cialis, Viagra, women's "feminine hygiene products" etc all the time.

    I am fairly sure they would not be struck blind by the sight of a condom.


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    In the UK, you pay a hefty VAT on sanitary products. That's what I think should be free, or at least tax free. I can choose not to have sex if I'm broke, don't get much say about the menstruation


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pipkin View Post
    In the UK, you pay a hefty VAT on sanitary products. That's what I think should be free, or at least tax free. I can choose not to have sex if I'm broke, don't get much say about the menstruation
    interesting! i never knew that. is it specific to pads/tampons, or is it for all hygeine produced? what is the rationale? (if you know! if not i'll be content to live in my ignorance :P)
    My mare wonders about all this fuss about birth control when she's only seen a handful of testicles in her entire life. Living with an intact male of my species, I feel differently! WAYSIDE


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    I didnt read any replies, so excuse me if this has been said already.

    Obamacare does NOT make BC pills free. It mandates that they are covered by your insurance. It does not stipulate that they are covered at 100%. It does not exempt them from coverage before you have met your deductible. It simply mandates that they are available through your insurance plan.

    Even if they are paid at 100% through your insurance plan - well, you are paying for that insurance plan, correct? So, yes, you are paying for BC. They are certainly not "free"!

    I just wanted to clarify that - as the OP clearly has an agenda and has shared incorrect information in an attempt to share that agenda.


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    Can someone PLEASE tell me what my agenda is ???

    *dying to know here*

    I assume you think I'm secretly opposed to the new healthcare regime? Or am I a devout Catholic who thinks that all contraception should be banned? Or am I a free love hippie who thinks everyone should have access to free contraception?

    I do wish our youth were better educated with more access to contraception. Not really sure that's an agenda, though?


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    Quote Originally Posted by independentlyawesome View Post
    Can someone PLEASE tell me what my agenda is ???

    *dying to know here*
    Your statement that women get birth control covered by the ACA and men do not, and the kind of flippant way you put it. It's either an agenda, or just misinformation about the ACA. I'm willing to withhold judgment.
    You have to have experiences to gain experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quietann View Post
    Your statement that women get birth control covered by the ACA and men do not, and the kind of flippant way you put it. It's either an agenda, or just misinformation about the ACA. I'm willing to withhold judgment.
    Oh, haha.

    Judge away

    Are you aware of free contraception for men through the ACA?


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    Quote Originally Posted by FlightCheck View Post
    for goodness sake, children see ads for Cialis, Viagra, women's "feminine hygiene products" etc all the time.

    I am fairly sure they would not be struck blind by the sight of a condom.
    It makes them go out and have sex...every.single.time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alagirl View Post
    It makes them go out and have sex...every.single.time!

    Considering I've seen these come on during shows like Lazy Town and showings of movies like Ice Age... I'd be VERY concerned if this was true.



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    I'm all for having them free!


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    Quote Originally Posted by independentlyawesome View Post
    Oh, haha.

    Judge away

    Are you aware of free contraception for men through the ACA?
    Men don't get pregnant.

    Birth control, in ALL forms, benefit both men and women. Some forms of bc are prescription only and thus are covered by health insurance. OTC birth control such as condoms and spermicides are not covered.

    Health insurance covers meds, like viagra, and tests like PSA that are male specific, and meds and tests that are female specific. Should women resent coverage for vasectomies because they're not going to meed one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by independentlyawesome View Post
    Oh, haha.

    Judge away

    Are you aware of free contraception for men through the ACA?
    Except for a vasectomy, there currently is no prescription or medical procedure contraception available for men. I've seen it argued that a vasectomy should be done without a copay as well. I agree.
    "We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals." ~Immanuel Kant


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    Quote Originally Posted by LauraKY View Post
    Except for a vasectomy, there currently is no prescription or medical procedure contraception available for men. I've seen it argued that a vasectomy should be done without a copay as well. I agree.
    Yep, I'd be all for 100% covered vasectomies too.

    There IS no hormonal birth control for men, if there were a "pill" for men, I've no doubt it would be covered like female birth control pills. As to why there isn't, I'm no scientist, but I'd imagine the problem of interfering with something that happens all the time (sperm production) is more complicated that interfering with something that only happends once a month (ovulation and/or implantation). Plus, I'll bet that pharmaceutical companies have already done some marketing research and found that male BC pills aren't a very lucrative market. Ask the men you know what they think of it...the majority of those I've asked have said something like "*I'm* not messing with MY hormones!".


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    Quote Originally Posted by wendy View Post
    sure, why not? free dispenser in every public bathroom.
    I wish they would get rid of the ridiculous requirement for a prescription for BC pills- if you could pick them up next to the aspirin (which is more dangerous than BC pills), and have condoms freely available everywhere, think of how many abortions we'd be able to prevent, how many STDs we could prevent, and so on.
    What is the downside?
    How do you figure aspirin is more dangerous than hormonal BC? I was a non-smoker who had been on BC pills for only about 1 year before I developed blood clots from the BC. Throwing a clot and the resulting stroke sounds pretty dangerous to me. Maybe something worth monitoring by a doctor.
    Oh, well, clearly you're not thoroughly indoctrinated to COTH yet, because finger pointing and drawing conclusions are the cornerstones of this great online community. (Tidy Rabbit)


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    Quote Originally Posted by LauraKY View Post
    Some of us think sex is a dirty word. That's why.
    lol. this reminds me of when my youngest step son was a tween. his mom (at the time extremely uptight about sex) bought him a t shirt with who she thought was caspar the ghost on the front of it.
    he wore it very proudly until someone asked her why she allowed him to go to school in a captain condom shirt!


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    Quote Originally Posted by independentlyawesome View Post
    Oh, haha.

    Judge away

    Are you aware of free contraception for men through the ACA?
    Not judging at all, except to be very careful about how you write things on the internet, as there are nuances of meaning that get lost here. (I've messed that one up numerous times!)

    As for contraception for men and the ACA, yes, vasectomies are covered (how much depending on the plan), just as tubal ligations for women are covered.
    You have to have experiences to gain experience.

    Proudly owned by 1998 Morgan mare Mythic Feronia; G-dspeed Trump & Minnie; welcome 2014 Morgan filly MtnTop FlyWithMeJosephine



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    Guys should pay for their own condoms (and viagra)...women should pay for their own BCPs (unless medical vs. no-bambinos). Seems simple.
    "Sic Gorgiamus Allos Subjectatos Nunc"


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