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    Default Should condoms be free?

    Just putting it all out there

    Since ObamaCare made all of the prescription birth control pills free, I can't help but feel like the other options should be free too.

    If a woman wants to prevent pregnancy in her sex life, she can get a script for Yaz or whatever.

    If a man wants to prevent pregnancy in his sex life, he needs to pay for condoms.

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    There are lots of places you can get condoms for free-here's a website where it will search for free condoms for you.
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    Oh dear, more of the 'but women get them free'
    sheesh...

    Aside from the hidden agenda here in your post, yes, maybe handing out condoms is not a bad idea.

    Not only can they prevent pregnancies and save the insurer thousands of dollars, they also can help prevent a number of STDs, some rather grave and serious.

    But so far, insurance companies tend more to pay for stuff that aids in making babies, like Viagra and penis pumps it seems.

    BTW, BC being covered does not mean it's 'free'.
    It means the plan one pays for covers the cost.
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    They gave them away for free in paper bags (like 20/bag) at my college health clinic. In a basket right by the door, so you didn't even have to ask for them. And this was a college in Western Kentucky - not up north.
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    As Alagirl says, BC pills are not actually "free", someone is paying for them, in this case the insurance companies (and the subscribers, through their premiums). The difference between BC pills and condoms is that BC pills require a prescription and doctor supervision and are, therefore, covered by insurance. OTC products, like condoms, are not covered by insurance. Women don't get "free" condoms either, and, unless they are in a long-term, monogamous, relationship, they need them just as much as men do! Condoms aren't just for birth control. And, in a long term, monogamous, relationship, those BC pills aren't JUST for the woman, they benefit the man in the relationship too...he doesn't have to get or pay for birth control.

    Things are fair: men and women not in monogamous relationships both need condoms. Men and women in monogamous relationships both benefit from the low cost BC pills available to the woman.

    That said, I'd have no problem with free condoms, through whatever mechanism they are provided. Making them easily, cheaply and readily available to as many people as possible is in everyone's best interests.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alagirl View Post
    Oh dear, more of the 'but women get them free'
    sheesh...

    Aside from the hidden agenda here in your post, yes, maybe handing out condoms is not a bad idea.

    Not only can they prevent pregnancies and save the insurer thousands of dollars, they also can help prevent a number of STDs, some rather grave and serious.

    But so far, insurance companies tend more to pay for stuff that aids in making babies, like Viagra and penis pumps it seems.

    BTW, BC being covered does not mean it's 'free'.
    It means the plan one pays for covers the cost.
    Wait, what's my hidden agenda?

    My agenda is purely: I changed birth control methods recently and went online searching for all of the alternatives. (The Planned Parenthood website is pretty cool - I didn't even know what things like a female condom were). I was surprised to find that all of the non-hormonal option are relatively expensive.

    Would it make you happy if I changed "man" to "woman who doesn't want to add hormones to her body" ?


    That's an awesome resource, Tabula !!!!
    (Male condoms were free everywhere during college years but I haven't seen them free since - cool to know you can source them free still)


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    Birth control isn't anywhere close to free

    My BC, with my insurance, is $50 a month.


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    i wouldn't mind if ins covered condoms for people. (neither bc pills nor anything else you get covered on ins is "free," btw.) i don't know if they're not covered bc they are so cheap, or bc you don't need an rx, or bc you can walk into any county health dept and get them by the bag, or what, but i wouldn't mind if they were covered. we give them to our students by the bag as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by supershorty628 View Post
    Birth control isn't anywhere close to free

    My BC, with my insurance, is $50 a month.
    Really?

    I thought that part of the new healthcare act was that all approved insurance companies needed to waive the copay for birth control. My plan changed, and when I talked to the pharmacist she said that was due to Obamacare.

    And for posters worried about semantics, a more appropriate turn of phrase would be "no copay." Clearly everyone who's getting their panties in a twist understood what I meant, though

    ETA: I did some googling, and it seems that your health insurance is just in a transitionary period if you're still paying for your pill (assuming it's generic). http://www.plannedparenthood.org/abo...-act-39966.htm


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    PS you can also buy them with your HSA or FSA account (not that it makes them free, but at least there's a tax break)
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    Certain generic BC pills are free, not all birth control pills are free. Many health plans are covering the more expensive IUDs without a copay though. It depends on the plan.

    I think free condoms are a great idea. I'd be fine with our tax dollars paying for them. Just think how much we might save in healthcare costs alone.
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    No. They should not be free. They are not free for the company to develop, test, and produce.

    Don't get me wrong, I enjoy canoeing. But I do NOT expect everyone else to pay for my canoe trips. While I get the argument that we'll pay for it even more if we don't provide BC (unwanted children), I still do not believe that we should be providing BC, that is a personal problem.

    If I can't afford to stay on the shot, then I will take a break from canoeing. It is pretty simple.
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    As soon as they make chocolate and horses free.


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    I have no problem with taxpayer provided condoms, either in school or health departments. In the long run they save taxpayers' money
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    Quote Originally Posted by carolprudm View Post
    I have no problem with taxpayer provided condoms, either in school or health departments. In the long run they save taxpayers' money
    I would be fine with big old bowls of condoms in every pharmacy and grocery store...paid for by the taxpayer. I firmly believe we would save money overall.
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    they are typically freely distributed at health dept. clinics.We called them 'Saturday Night Specials'- brown paper bags of free condoms

    ( I used to install EMR software in FQHCs for a living. I had some fun times in those crazy clinics )


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    sure, why not? free dispenser in every public bathroom.
    I wish they would get rid of the ridiculous requirement for a prescription for BC pills- if you could pick them up next to the aspirin (which is more dangerous than BC pills), and have condoms freely available everywhere, think of how many abortions we'd be able to prevent, how many STDs we could prevent, and so on.
    What is the downside?


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    I would hand out hundreds at my store for free if it would keep some of these morons from breeding!
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    I would 100% support condoms being free and available everywhere.

    However... the USA is weird. Some years ago, I was involved in handing out free condoms at a science fiction convention. (Trust me, s*x happens at these events. LOTS of s*x, often between people who know each other only casually.) People thought it was wonderful, until someone with children complained, and we had to stop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4Martini View Post
    As soon as they make chocolate and horses free.
    Solid plan

    I don't really understand why people object to children seeing condoms. I would want my children to grow up understanding what a condom is and why people use it. They can make their own choices & mistakes, but I don't want them to do so out of ignorance.

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