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  1. #161
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    Quote Originally Posted by katarine View Post
    I'm gonna buy me some books and make me a trainer
    Why not shoot for higher aspirations and read books from fields that pay more? "Dummies Guide to Brain Surgery"


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  2. #162
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    Dude, I read the bible. GOD WAS MY TRAINER!!! Top that!!
    ~Veronica
    "The Son Dee Times" "Sustained" "Somerset" "Franklin Square"
    http://photobucket.com/albums/y192/vxf111/


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  3. #163
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    Entertaining thread. No matter what he has chutzpah. Living the dream!!!


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  4. #164
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    Quote Originally Posted by NJRider View Post
    Why not shoot for higher aspirations and read books from fields that pay more? "Dummies Guide to Brain Surgery"
    Pssht. I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express. I'm all set.


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  5. #165
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    Quote Originally Posted by vxf111 View Post
    Dude, I read the bible. GOD WAS MY TRAINER!!! Top that!!
    ROTFL!
    I'm in PA and someone mentioned this guy's name ... I had never heard of him before. Now I know to tell people to run!
    "the waist is not a joint" I MUST REMEMBER THIS!


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  6. #166
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    But he sat next to Robert Dover!!!! (Does he know Robert is gay? and married?)


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  7. #167
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reddfox View Post
    ROTFL!
    I'm in PA and someone mentioned this guy's name ... I had never heard of him before. Now I know to tell people to run!

    Yep.
    And you have never seen him ride.
    If you are in Pa why not invite him out for a clinic or do you feel too threatened and is it easier to be wicked instead?

    Such jealousy here from you people. I thought Peronace was very honest and up front. He was kind enough to answer your questions but you are still not happy?
    What-a-group-of-a##holes.....


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  8. #168

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    This is all sort of sad to me. I don't really think this guy has malicious intent. He's just so completely clueless. Here's a breakdown as I see it:

    1. This one time when I was in high school I had a horse and I got him to do some cool stuff I read about in a book.
    2. Then I stopped riding for 11 years.
    3. I decided to start riding again. I read a lot of books and seem to have some natural feel, and riding is fun and I needed a job anyway, so...
    4. I do not have any grasp whatsoever of what the current dressage world is all about, or what kind of work, training, effort, time, and skill goes into being an actual dressage trainer, nor do I care.
    5. I made this website all by myself lololol! Oh and hey, Facebook lets you make a free business page so I'll make one.
    6. Why does everyone hate me?


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  9. #169
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    Quote Originally Posted by kellydressage View Post
    Yep.
    And you have never seen him ride.
    .
    I think people would like to see him ride. Didn't you say you had video?


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  10. #170
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    Kelly and nick--Give it up. You have a bunch of VERY experienced horse people here. Some of us have actually trained and shown an Appy to GP. The arrogance both of you have about what you know is very indicative of ignorance. You know so little, you think you know a lot.

    There are all kinds of beginner riders out there. That's fine. But pretending you know something and trying to schill and lie to people about it is a huge problem, and liability. You are a lawsuit waiting to happen.


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  11. #171
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    Do you and he share a computer, kelly? Y'all are never on at the same time...
    ~Veronica
    "The Son Dee Times" "Sustained" "Somerset" "Franklin Square"
    http://photobucket.com/albums/y192/vxf111/


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  12. #172
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    Kellydressage....how long have you been riding with him? What level have you trained to? If you are a beginner dressage rider I understand where you are coming from and why you don't understand where we are coming from. If you are an upper level rider, please share some video of his training your upper level horse.


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  13. #173
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    Does he stay at your house?! Do you stay at his?!
    ~Veronica
    "The Son Dee Times" "Sustained" "Somerset" "Franklin Square"
    http://photobucket.com/albums/y192/vxf111/


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  14. #174
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    But the truth is, is that the man gets results. If I called him out to my farm to work with my horses and he was saying one thing but doing another, and my horse looked like crap, then I would say this guy is a fraud. But he gets positive results and he does that at clinics also what is so hard to understand about that?
    He reads. Ok. Dont we all? Isnt that why we read, so we can learn? He has admitted to being largely self taught he's not lying in any way but yet you can still call him a liar and a scam.

    I just dont understand what your problem is all of you, other thean you are looking for someone to hate on.


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  15. #175
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    Quote Originally Posted by kellydressage View Post
    Yep.
    And you have never seen him ride.
    If you are in Pa why not invite him out for a clinic or do you feel too threatened and is it easier to be wicked instead?

    Such jealousy here from you people. I thought Peronace was very honest and up front. He was kind enough to answer your questions but you are still not happy?
    What-a-group-of-a##holes.....
    Threatened from what? Regardless on what Mr. Peronace says, he still does not have the education or experience to be hanging his shingle out as a haute ecole dressage maestre. That doesn't make us a##holes, that makes us not suckers.

    And why don't I give it a try?
    Because I have a wonderful coach and trainer that have legitimate successes as recognized shows (at Grand Prix and every other level) and my trainer has actually bred and trained multiple horses from green to Grand Prix and has authored books that are well-known by the dressage community as a whole. And, my trainer actually trained with Nuno Oliviera for a bit. I choose to spend my money on coaches and trainers that have the education and expertise. And, lucky me... They're also in PA.
    "the waist is not a joint" I MUST REMEMBER THIS!


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    What kind of results are you referring to?


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  17. #177
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    Quote Originally Posted by kellydressage View Post
    Yep.


    Such jealousy here from you people.
    the man has no competition record for either himself or his students or their horses, not it would seem aught else than some blurry photos of a horse doing some sort of tricks that he learned about from a book. What on earth is there to be jealous of?
    Sitting next to Robert Dover?
    "It's like a Russian nesting doll of train wrecks."--CaitlinandTheBay

    ...just settin' on the Group W bench.


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  18. #178
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    If he's doing so many clinics all over the world, surely someone else that reads this board has been to one of them ...

    Houseguest #2, come on down!


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  19. #179
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    If he doesn't like showing/competitive dressage, that is fine ... Not everybody wants to compete. That would explain the absence of scores. But if he is going to market himself over the internet as an upper level dressage trainer, potential clients are going to want more to form their opinions on than just a handful of 15 year old out of focus photos of a horse doing circus tricks.


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  20. #180
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    Mr. Peronace is such an honest guy, huh?

    Please see that at the bottom of this page he states he is publishing a book with Xenophon Press.

    http://www.padressagetrainer.com/press-release.php

    Out of morbid curiosity I e-mailed the publisher this evening. His response was "thanks for the heads up. we are not publishing his book. Where did you see that?"

    I guess now is also a good time to mention I also e-mailed the publisher of Dressage Today. Wonder what they'll say.


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