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  1. #1
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    Default Nick Peronace Dressage

    So I saw on Facebook the other day that a dressage trainer named Nick Peronace is doing a clinic semi locally to me. His social media presense is....interesting and website a bit light on the details. Nothing on Centerline Scores. Google shows nothing except a weird possibly unrelated scandal with a beef company? Does anyone know anything about this person?

    His website:
    http://www.padressagetrainer.com


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    His photos show a not remakable position, and BTV horses.
    Some riders change their horse, they change their saddle, they change their teacher; they never change themselves.


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    I think you answered your own question! I have no personal experience with him but have a friend who is a quality trainer that does and based on her experience, run away! But looking at his awful web site should be enough to tell you all you need to see, Where do these people come from?? There are a lot of qualified trainers in IA and clinicians (Amanda Johnson, Jamie Kment) that come. Why the need for a quack? Who gave him the title "Haute-Ecole Dressage Trainer"? Scarily enough, we have a trainer like that in our area...a fat liar that announced to the world she is a "classical trainer" and of course people that point out the bad photos, inconsistencies in her stories, etc are all evil and do not understand art....


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    I have seen the same thing. His facebook claims he is a grand prix rider but I cannot find any scores for him. I am also pretty sure he was the person who cold called me regarding setting up a clinic. I do not know any reputable trainers who cold call barns looking to set up clinics.


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    I believe he was a part of a Facebook group that I'm in, and he was banned for being rude, disrespectful, and just generally belligerent when people brought up opposing view points to his. If that's how he is online, I can only imagine what he's like in person…
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    The Chevy's Cup thing is the only notable accomplishment. He trained the horse for which the award is named.

    I'm scared of those pictures though.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RhythmNCruise View Post
    The Chevy's Cup thing is the only notable accomplishment. He trained the horse for which the award is named.

    I'm scared of those pictures though.
    Technically, it is not really an accomplishment. He is the sponsor of the cup he named after his own horse.


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    in choosing a trainer ( clinician) ground manners are important

    I would say this is a fail all around
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    Facebook site says it is a promotional (?) clinic. Happy to stay close to home and clinic with Cindy Ishoy, John Staples and Ralph Hill. Amanda Johnson is great, as well.

    NJRider: wonder if we are thinking of the same person? Not naming names because I live a low-drama life and try to keep it that way.
    pace, path, balance, impulsion and ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrayCatFarm View Post

    NJRider: wonder if we are thinking of the same person? Not naming names because I live a low-drama life and try to keep it that way.
    Could be....but sadly these types are more common that the qualified/ethical trainers!
    And yes...best to let sleeping Krazy Klassical trainers lie


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    Quote Originally Posted by abrant View Post
    The address listed on his web site is for this farm:

    http://www.jentristables.com/index.html


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    His website is a real piece of work! Yikes! Who is hosting this upcoming clinic and does anyone know who this guy has trained with to gain this title and credentials? My my! Turn over a rock ....
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    I do hope that this Press Release from his website is inaccurate.

    "10-01-13, Dressage Today will publish an article Nick Peronace has written titled " Training The Non-Warmblood" in it's August 2014 issue!!!!"

    The last thing DT needs to do is give him credence by publishing him.
    Some riders change their horse, they change their saddle, they change their teacher; they never change themselves.


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    His facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/NickPeronaceDressage

    Scroll 1/3 down. Observe photos on left where he seems to compares himself to Oliveira.


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    Quote Originally Posted by alicen View Post
    His facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/NickPeronaceDressage

    Scroll 1/3 down. Observe photos on left where he seems to compares himself to Oliveira.
    Yes. And his critics either don't know what they're talking about or are jealous.
    That horse looks pissed off.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SillyHorse View Post
    Yeah, I'd have to agree. Not someone I'd want to give my money to.
    The auditing fee is $10 -might have entertainment value if one lived close by.


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    Here's 3 ways he suggests teaching piaffe (the first one caused a ruckus in a Facebook dressage group):

    -Teach Piaffe without spurs. After a while, put really big ones on. Your horse will Piaffe with wings!! Chevy hit his belly when I did it lolol!!!

    -Piaffe with the wall infront of you. Keep asking for more energy with your leg and tapping with the dressage whip.

    -Ask for Piaffe out of the trot, not the walk.
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    I think this has to be my favorite post by him on his Facebook page:

    "Let examine Tortillas in Piaffe. On the left is Ed Gal, on the right is Matthias Alexander. Ed rides him light, forward and collected. The result is uphill forward expression. Matthias has him all up front and not forward into the collection. Result is a rolled neck, zero hind end height, and looks forced."

    "Tortillas"??????? Hahahahahaha! I think next we should examine Quesadillas...


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    Quote Originally Posted by rebecca yount View Post
    "Let examine Tortillas in Piaffe.
    Oops! I missed that, but did notice that he doesn't know Rath's last name.


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    Stop it, you guys are killing me!! And it is only a matter of time (as I look at my watch) before I am sure his many fans will be on here crying about how uneducated we all are...


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