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  1. #1
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    Default Pony Stallion Suggestions for a Lovely Mare

    Welsh cross Mare. Great show record in the Medium Division. 13.1ish. Bay with White. Always very good in the Model. Moves great- rather warmbloody. Could jump in better form. Very nice temperament.

    She is by Conway High Honors and out of a Brer Jeremy Fisher mare.

    We would like to improve the jump. Her head is a little big, but she gets away with it because she is marked so beautifully.
    We would like to stay away from Grey because she is such a marketable color.

    She's not full section B welsh, so I'm thinking it would be risky to breed to a crossbred for size? I've done that before with wildly varying sizes.

    We would probably like to get a medium or large and would like something marketable in the foal.

    Ideas?



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    If you are on Facebook, like Farmore Farms Welsh Ponies. *Telynau Royal Charter is spectacular. Not adding size to make a large, but will give you the rest and more. He speaks for himself. -Lara Brown



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    Always suggestions! Love her sire line. Tell me more about the dam?
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    Do you have any photos of your mare? Are you sure you want to stay away from greys? This boy might help improve your mare's jump!
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    www.DaventryEquestrian.com
    Home of Welsh Pony, ISR/Oldenburg & RPSI pony stallions Daventry's Power Play, Goldhills Brandysnap LOM & Alvesta Picasso
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    Would you consider a GRP?
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    The mare belongs to a client who has owned her since she was a three year old. Her name is Brownlands Miss Sissie. You can see a picture on my webstite's sales page. If we don't find a good lease situation for her, the plan is to breed her in the spring.

    We're definitely looking to breed for a show prospect. I really like Royal Charter. He's produced winners on the line as well as successful pony hunters.

    What's a GRP?



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    Shame you are against gray. I have always been a fan of schoponi a schoenfeld son who is pony sized and foals stay as such. If I were to go pony looking to improve head and for jump it would be him.



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    Please don't misunderstand. I'm not against greys. They're beautiful, but if you would look at this mare, she's a gorgeous deep bay with white. In terms of marketability, her color is a huge plus. It's what caught the eye of her owner in the first place. My client laid eyes on her and say "wow". I've bought and sold enough horses and ponies to know that buyers oftentimes say, "Any color but a grey". Greys are quite plentiful in the pony world and let's face it, they are a lot of work.

    So in this case, I'd like to consider color when choosing a stallion for this mare. I'm looking to produce a highly marketable pony hunter foal.

    I don't know that much about the dam sire. I know he's Farnley Lustre bred.



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    GRP = German Riding Pony
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    Totally understand your concern over color in this very special case, and I agree with you. Are you wanting another medium or a large? What kind of size does this mare's pedigree have?



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    Why not a Welsh Cob? I'm a big fan of North Fork Cardi. While his discipline is dressage (he was beating WBs at GP), he is a super athletic guy and his foals are being highly graded. He is also a dark bay if I recall correctly.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyzteke View Post
    Why not a Welsh Cob?
    Because the owner is looking to produce a fancy pony hunter foal. I stand a Welsh Cob stallion as well, but it would be the last breed I would ever recommend to produce a typey pony hunter foal that would be competitive on the East Coast hunter circuit. The OP mentioned she is looking for a foal that will be very marketable on the pony hunter circuit. The pony hunters need to be VERY flat kneed movers, low head and neck set and an elegant and streamlined frame. Definitely not the description of a Welsh Cob!
    www.DaventryEquestrian.com
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    Also home to www.EquineAppraisers.com


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    Quote Originally Posted by Daventry View Post
    Because the owner is looking to produce a fancy pony hunter foal. I stand a Welsh Cob stallion as well, but it would be the last breed I would ever recommend to produce a typey pony hunter foal that would be competitive on the East Coast hunter circuit. The OP mentioned she is looking for a foal that will be very marketable on the pony hunter circuit. The pony hunters need to be VERY flat kneed movers, low head and neck set and an elegant and streamlined frame. Definitely not the description of a Welsh Cob!
    Gottcha! I'm certainly no pony expert (obviously). And the hunter thing is another world, so....never mind....

    But NF Cardi sure is cool! I keep trying to find a mare that suits him...and waiting till I'm sure there is a market for the foal...


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    I'm not sure how you would feel about a buckskin, but I love Mynach Mystical. He's produced some really fancy hunter prospects
    http://arnabyfarm.com/stallions/mynach.html
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    Feel free to check out Morning Glorys Ilyushin www.muskokalakesconnemaras.com Very huntery mover and throws his colour alot of the time too.
    I also second Mynach Mystical... I fully intend to breed to him at some point to get a nice little driving pony! He is a stunner
    www.muskokalakesconnemaras.com
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    OP has a nice hunter performance pony and wants a hunter performance pony as a result. She should select a stallion that has proven hunter pony performance in his pedigree.
    Randee Beckman ~Otteridge Farm, LLC (http://on.fb.me/1iJEqvR)~ Marketing Manager - The Clothes Horse



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    The problem with breeding a medium is a lot of the top hunter pony sires are smalls. So you do have to think outside the box a little. I actually have two mediums I want to breed at some point but am also stuck on finding the right pony sire. I am strongly thinking Schoponi but that is because I have a Schoenfeld mare that I adore and really like the bloodline.



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    You could contact Orchard Hills Ponies http://www.orchardhillfarm.com/ and they would be able to help you choose from their lineup of stallions. They are very knowledgeable and produce fantastic hunter ponies.



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    No pony stallion will have done the hunters though with a performance career mounted by a kid. So I can see a proven stallion by virtue of his kids , but the stallion himself will not have had a true hunter career would they?
    www.muskokalakesconnemaras.com
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuskokaLakesConnemaras
    No pony stallion will have done the hunters though with a performance career mounted by a kid. So I can see a proven stallion by virtue of his kids , but the stallion himself will not have had a true hunter career would they?
    Not as a hunter pony. But the most proven pony hunter sires have the performance bred into the pedigree.
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