The Chronicle of the Horse
MagazineNewsHorse SportsHorse CareCOTH StoreVoicesThe Chronicle UntackedDirectoriesMarketplaceDates & Results
 
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 35
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Apr. 1, 2012
    Posts
    169

    Default The White Eye

    Do you think that white around the eye indicates nutty horse? My friend loved the pics of my often mare until she then saw her in person and made an offhand comment about it. Mare is in your pocket sweet level headed so far



  2. #2
    Join Date
    Jan. 4, 2007
    Location
    TX
    Posts
    40,895

    Default

    In the western world, that used to be said of "walleyed" horses with any degree of white showing.
    I expect there were some lines that were flighty that had those and so all with those eyes were being considered flighty.
    Cause and effect are not always what we assume, are they.

    You also heard that saying about one white foot, ok, two look him over good, three, beware and four, "feed it to the crows".

    With so many paints out there today, that have much more white showing in their eyes, people today are getting used to that just being part of otherwise normal horses.



  3. #3
    Join Date
    Mar. 24, 2004
    Location
    Pottstown, PA (East Coventry)
    Posts
    3,069

    Default

    My QH Sonny had just a little bit of white always showing. It gave him a slightly startled look. He was a good solid citizen. Was used as a lesson horse for beginners. He had virtually no spook in him and was really lazy in the ring.

    So no I know it does not indicate a nutty horse.
    Oh, well, clearly you're not thoroughly indoctrinated to COTH yet, because finger pointing and drawing conclusions are the cornerstones of this great online community. (Tidy Rabbit)



  4. #4
    Join Date
    Jan. 4, 2007
    Location
    TX
    Posts
    40,895

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by SonnysMom View Post
    My QH Sonny had just a little bit of white always showing. It gave him a slightly startled look. He was a good solid citizen. Was used as a lesson horse for beginners. He had virtually no spook in him and was really lazy in the ring.

    So no I know it does not indicate a nutty horse.
    If that Sonny goes back to Sonny Dee Bar, yes, those have old paint lines back there and many show white around the eyes.
    Could not find nicer, less reactive, puppy dog personalities, showing us that no, white showing is not flighty in itself.

    I heard that same for years and still today, if a horse has more than most white around the eyes, I double check, to be sure it is not flighty.
    Old habits are hard to break.



  5. #5
    Join Date
    May. 12, 2008
    Posts
    4,068

    Default

    My trainer does not particularly care for wall-eyed horses and really does not like if they have one blue and one brown eye. I cannot recall if two blue eyes are alright with her. It is all bias based on personal experience.

    I love looking at threads asking about conformation and try to see what other people note in pictures, but what makes me laugh is the comment 'he has a really kind eye'. What does that even mean? I bet my crazy mare has a really kind eye...I should take a confo shot of her and see if I get that comment at all.



  6. #6
    Join Date
    Oct. 1, 2012
    Posts
    311

    Default

    I know a horse with tons of white around his eyes (he has brown eyes). He is probably the chillest, calmest, sweetest horse ever born! He always looks kind of surprised or worried, though, but that is only because of his eyes, since he is totally relaxed.


    1 members found this post helpful.

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Feb. 6, 2003
    Location
    NorthEast
    Posts
    24,508

    Default

    Wall eyes bother some people due to how they look. They tend to look more "human" and less animal since we rarely see pets/animals eyes with white that shows. And that can freak people out.
    The "wall eyes are crazy" probably started due to a horse being spooked will widen it's eyes and some white may then show. Possibly people assumed a wall eye was always spooky, who knows?
    Others agree with the showing whites being crazy because they have issues winning arguments with Appaloosas, LOL!

    Wall eyes don't bother me. Neither do watch eyes (one blue eye) or blue eyes horses. Although I would probably pass on a blue eyed horse if they had pink surrounding the eyes instead of darker skin.

    Many of the old sayings are old wives' tales. And some we still say as more of a joke...like beware the chestnut mare! And like Bluey said, used to be thought that 3-4 white feet on a horse meant it will have weak feet and go lame.
    You jump in the saddle,
    Hold onto the bridle!
    Jump in the line!
    ...Belefonte


    1 members found this post helpful.

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Jan. 4, 2007
    Location
    TX
    Posts
    40,895

    Default

    One of my current horses will show white when alert and he is a little reactive at times.
    I don't think that he shows white is a sign that he may be reactive, just that when he is reactive, his white in the eye shows more.
    Another equally reactive horse with less white we would not notice anything different.



  9. #9
    Join Date
    Oct. 14, 2010
    Posts
    2,487

    Default

    Mine has a wild, white, evil eye. From what I've heard she always a was a kind of wild, not sure if I would term her nuts. She does have one or two mean bones in her, and hates being still. A head shot was enough to convince one of my coworkers that his austic 6 yro didn't need to ride her (he'd hinted/asked several times before)

    The other one has a "kind eye" Never.Again. Sweet on the ground, but massive *itch if you want her to work. This is the one that worries, too. Sweet is highly overrated.



  10. #10
    Join Date
    Aug. 4, 2009
    Location
    MD
    Posts
    4,093

    Default

    More mythical nonsense it's a conformation of eye nothing else....personally I will choose that eye over another in a horse....gives them character...


    2 members found this post helpful.

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Apr. 19, 2011
    Location
    Madison, GA
    Posts
    2,811

    Default

    My guy has white around each eye and one is brown and the other is blue. I may be a bit biased, but I'm pretty sure he's the best horse in the world . He's a solid citizen for beginners and a blast to ride in general.

    Brown eye: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=3&theater

    Blue eye: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=3&theater
    Southern Cross Guest Ranch
    An All Inclusive Guest Ranch Vacation - Georgia
    www.southcross.com
    RIP Bocephus March 2008 - April 2013



  12. #12
    Join Date
    May. 20, 2005
    Location
    Desert Southwest
    Posts
    6,280

    Default

    Blue eyes sorta freak me out but I try not to let that prejudice me against the animal.

    Goat's eyes bother me, too. Although I think goats themselves are cute, cute, cute, I just can't look into those eyes!

    A breeder of Davenport Arabians once told me that the Arabs considered the all-brown eye the "angel eye" and one with white showing the "man eye".



  13. #13
    Join Date
    Jun. 16, 2001
    Location
    Los Angeles, California
    Posts
    3,417

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by altermetoday View Post
    Do you think that white around the eye indicates nutty horse? My friend loved the pics of my often mare until she then saw her in person and made an offhand comment about it. Mare is in your pocket sweet level headed so far
    Appys have white around the eye, they are smart and they don't take a lot of Sh*t before they start fighting back so there is my theory of where the saying got started.
    The Denver Broncos went to visit an orphanage. "It's so sad looking into their faces so devoid of hope." Sara aged 6



  14. #14
    Join Date
    May. 5, 2009
    Location
    Location: Indiana, but my heart is in Zone II
    Posts
    2,731

    Default

    It doesn't make them crazy, it makes them not as attractive (to some).
    Come to the dark side, we have cookies


    1 members found this post helpful.

  15. #15
    Join Date
    Apr. 19, 2011
    Location
    Madison, GA
    Posts
    2,811

    Default

    People ask me all the time if my horse is blind in his blue eye. I typically point to my own blue eyes and say my eyes are blue, but I'm not blind
    Southern Cross Guest Ranch
    An All Inclusive Guest Ranch Vacation - Georgia
    www.southcross.com
    RIP Bocephus March 2008 - April 2013


    2 members found this post helpful.

  16. #16
    Join Date
    Jun. 18, 2005
    Location
    Sweet, sweet Virginia!
    Posts
    1,706

    Default

    After owning an Appaloosa for as long as I did, it took me forever to get used to seeing them WITHOUT a white sclera! I actually like the look.

    I think it's just that, to those who have dark-scleraed horses, the horse with white sclera looks flighty b/c the only time they usually see it is when other horses ARE being flighty. (I hope that makes sense).
    "Radar, the man's ex-cavalry: if he sees four flies having a meeting, he knows they're talking about a horse!" Cptn. BJ Hunnicutt, M*A*S*H Season 4, Episode "Dear Mildred"


    2 members found this post helpful.

  17. #17
    Join Date
    Oct. 11, 2007
    Location
    Andover, MA
    Posts
    5,621

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluey View Post
    One of my current horses will show white when alert and he is a little reactive at times.
    I don't think that he shows white is a sign that he may be reactive, just that when he is reactive, his white in the eye shows more.
    Mine is just like this. It's pretty common in Morgans, and for the "hotter" types of classes (e.g. park saddle, park harness, in-hand) is considered a plus.

    But at the same time, many people have told me that she has a "kind eye." She's pretty awesome no matter what her eyes look like.
    You have to have experiences to gain experience.

    Proudly owned by Mythic Feronia, 1998 Morgan mare; G-dspeed Trump & Minnie; welcome 2014 Morgan filly MtnTop FlyWithMeJosephine



  18. #18
    Join Date
    Feb. 18, 2003
    Location
    Alberta
    Posts
    5,356

    Default

    My young guy (hann) has one where the white sclera shows, complete with white eyelashes and a blaze that goes over the top.....I think he's the cutest thing ever AND he's completely sane and level headed (been on stall rest for almost 2 mths with NO drugs whatsoever) and for riding he's just amazingly zen about everything!
    Go Ahead: This is a dare, not permission. Don't Do It!



  19. #19
    Join Date
    Feb. 4, 2009
    Location
    NCC DE
    Posts
    2,300

    Default

    I was taught that a walleye is specifically white or blue in the iris. I think the OP is talking about horses that have sclera showing around the typically brown part.

    FTR my horse does have some sclera showing most of the time. It gives him a bit of a worried look but believe me, he's a far cry from nutty. Good solid guy that can take a joke. He has to be able to take a joke, he has me as a rider.



  20. #20
    Join Date
    Feb. 4, 2009
    Location
    NCC DE
    Posts
    2,300

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by JBCool View Post
    After owning an Appaloosa for as long as I did, it took me forever to get used to seeing them WITHOUT a white sclera! I actually like the look.

    I think it's just that, to those who have dark-scleraed horses, the horse with white sclera looks flighty b/c the only time they usually see it is when other horses ARE being flighty. (I hope that makes sense).
    Makes perfect sense to me.


    1 members found this post helpful.

Similar Threads

  1. Keeping White Saddle Pads White
    By Snugglerug in forum Dressage
    Replies: 18
    Last Post: Apr. 12, 2012, 04:16 PM
  2. Replies: 0
    Last Post: Feb. 10, 2011, 06:02 PM
  3. Replies: 13
    Last Post: Jul. 16, 2010, 06:24 PM
  4. Safe 'human' products to make white legs white.
    By mandalea in forum Horse Care
    Replies: 21
    Last Post: Jan. 29, 2009, 04:23 AM
  5. Replies: 29
    Last Post: May. 31, 2008, 10:39 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
randomness