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    Cool Someone called AC on me...HAPPY update post 137

    Wow. I got a phone call on wednesday afternoon. Caller saw my phone number on my stalls available sign and called to "tell me that one of my horses is standing in the pasture with a terrible wound". (Jump to bottom for full story on "terrible wound").

    I politely assure her that the horse is ok, it just looks bad because it is still draining. She goes on to say that she "has horses too, and thinks it is very odd that this horse is outside with other horses, and she drives by my barn every day because she is a teacher, blah blah blah." I go into detail, getting irritated at this point, about the injury, since she asked me point blank "what happened to her?" in a horrified/disgusted tone. I told her who the vet treating it was, what had been done, and that she has another appt on monday. She actually said "Well, I have seen this horse for months, and it is not getting better, and I wanted to make sure someone actually KNEW about this injury."

    OK lady. This is clearly a boarding barn. Chances are pretty good that "someone knows about it."

    I get being a concerned citizen, and calling to check on it. But apparently that's not all she did. I was not wholly surprised to see an AC truck in the barn driveway about 7 pm. I yelled for DH to go out and talk to her while I fished out vet records to show the officer. The officer was very nice, and of course I was very nice and fourthcoming with her. We explained, showed her the mare, pointed out that her weight was good, hooves trimmed, showed her the vet records, gave her the vet's phone number, etc.. I offered to show the officer her stall too, and she said"Oh, it's fine, I'm sure it's immaculate, I can see you have a very nice barn and take good care of these horses."

    So she left, but before she did, she told me the caller told her, the officer, that she had come onto my property, through the barn and to the gate of the pasture the horses were in. And let's be real, if she did all that, she probably went INTO the pasture to look up close at her, because she clearly has a nose problem, and I know where this mare likes to hang out, and to get a good look she probably went into the pasture. This woman called me from her cell phone, and I am SOOO tempted to do a reverse look up and press trespassing charges against her. Thank God nothing happened and I do have commercial liability ins, but still!! Who does that!?


    For those interested in the injury, the mare (who is mine), ran through a 3 board wood fence and impaled herself on one of the boards as she broke it. It went into she shoulder, from the front, into the muscle behind the left scapula. I saw it right after it happened and immediately called the vet out. He stitched her up with a drain tube and gave me SMZ's. It abscessed even on SMZ's, and when I removed the drain tube a week later, wood shards started coming out. I got out 3 pieces of wood over the next week. It continued to drain, and she was in a good deal of pain even on bute. I kept my vets updated, and the advice was to wait and see. They did not xray or ultrasound because whatever may still be in there is behind the scapula so we would not be able to see anything anyway. I was also advised against Surgery again due to location, the vets feared causing additional nerve damage plus the risk of getting into an artery. I was advised to wait it out, and was told if there was a foreign body present, the body would either dissolve it or it would work its way out. She looks healed from the outside, she just has a very small (about the circumference of a plain ballpoint pen) spot of proud flesh that the drainage is coming from. I scrub it clean every day, and I finally told the vet that I can't stand to see her like this anymore (it has been 3 months), and we need to try SOMETHING. So monday, we are doing exploratory surgery in hopes of finding and removing the remaining wood. There HAS to be something in there that is not allowing her to heal. So hopefully all goes well, she is an adorable 8 year old arab mare that is well bred and fun to ride. It would be a real shame to have to put her down, however, I can't let her live her life like this. At the same time, I had to give her the chance to heal. She is in some discomfort, but is happy and alert enough, eats and drinks well, etc...

    Any prayers/jingles/success stories welcome.
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    Sorry about your mare, don't know what else you can do, already in the care of good vets there.

    I will say, at 5 1/2 years old, I mashed 8 fingers, don't ask and the pinkies were broken in pieces.
    It all healed in good time, but one pinky kept being sore and 10! years later, this cyst opened and one more little piece of bone came out.

    It can take bodies long to reject what they encapsulate as foreign.
    Then, I was not walking on my pinkies, past that orangutan stage by then.
    Unlike your horse, that has to use that shoulder continuously to stand up and get anywhere.

    I am with you, quality of life is all for a horse, we should not expect them to endure on the off chance that, after long time in pain, they may be ok.
    Horses really don't understand time in that context, just endure.
    It is up to us to decide what makes sense, for them, as the horses they are.

    I hope that surgery will find whatever is there, may be some tracks the vet can follow up to where it may be and so resolve it, or make a track for it to come out quickly.


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    *jingles for the mare*



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    The good news is that Mrs. Busybody will not have any credibility with AC after this, one hopes. Good luck healing your horse.
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    Oh my - how nasty. A pony from our Pony Club did the exact same thing - but it healed up fine.

    My horse imapled herself on a rake - long story short - it went in by her udder and came out by her vulva. Miraculously missed her milk vein, her vagina and her udder and went in between the fascia of her hind end muscles. She's as sound as a (Canadian!) dollar now! Took her a while, psychologically, but she's over that too, now.
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    well, irritating for you, but it's kind of nice there are people out there willing to call AC if they think something is amiss. You see all these stories about farms littered with dead and dying animals and wonder how and why no one noticed or cared enough to call for help.


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    Quote Originally Posted by wendy View Post
    well, irritating for you, but it's kind of nice there are people out there willing to call AC if they think something is amiss. You see all these stories about farms littered with dead and dying animals and wonder how and why no one noticed or cared enough to call for help.
    Is ok to call, not ok to accuse after hearing the whole story, as that lady did.


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    I say it is still OK to call if you are truly concerned.

    It is not OK to go on the BOs property though. That is just wrong.

    Jingles for your mare.


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    the tress passing is not okay, but I am in the "I rather people call then not" boat.

    I had AC called on me once. We had a rescue dog, which was pregnant, and gave birth to a litter. One of the puppies had an autoimmune disorder - basically allergic to itself.

    It was under veterinary care - trying a few steroid treatments, and if the puppy did not respond, we were putting it down.

    A water meter maid called AC about the "sick puppy" - AC came out, we showed vet records and kennel. And that was the end of it.

    If you are doing the right thing, AC shouldn't be a problem. Animals need advocates, because not everyone is a responsible owner.


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    I had someone call AC on us too. Very weird situation...
    this person told AC that they were driving by our place on the way back home from the zoo and that they saw a "llama with no food or water in the round pen."
    1. We don't have a llama. 2. We don't have a horse that looks like a llama. 3. We keep water and hay in the round pen when horses are in there. 4. We didn't have a horse turned out in that round pen for a couple days. So what the person saw is beyond me.
    AC came out and all was fine.

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    *snurk* Maybe you had a llama that took a passing interest in the round pen, and then moved.

    Or the person calling needed his/her meds adjusted .

    And boo on the trespassing!
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    I think it was alright for the lady to call. Not to harass but in this day of age we still hear stories about horses being abused and found dead or left for dead after not being taken care of. I would rather have someone who is concerned call even if she is a pain in the a$$ and get someone involved rather then not call at all when there really is a problem. When someone feels like its not there problem when they should have said something that is how animals get abused and killed in horrible ways.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheJenners View Post
    *snurk* Maybe you had a llama that took a passing interest in the round pen, and then moved.


    And boo on the trespassing!
    Double boo on trespassing llamas.


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    I know I don't tolerate trespassing llamas. Alpacas...well, that's another story.
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    So...what is wrong with llamas that you hate them so?
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    That would seriously piss me off, The woman is an idiot, But what pisses me off, is why does animal control have time for a call like that but when there are starving on their last legs cases they have to be almost dead before they respond. Nuts!
    "you can only ride the drama llama so hard before it decides to spit in your face." ?Caffeinated.


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    Quote Originally Posted by wendy View Post
    well, irritating for you, but it's kind of nice there are people out there willing to call AC if they think something is amiss. You see all these stories about farms littered with dead and dying animals and wonder how and why no one noticed or cared enough to call for help.
    It is ok to call - but never ok to go onto someone's personal property to get a closer look. (People do it all the time, but that doesn't make it right. I've had to tell complainants OFTEN to stop going onto the property and feeding the horses as it can result in trespassing charges - let the officers do their work!)

    To the OP, I am so sorry about your mare. I have no words of wisdom, just prayers and good wishes for her and for you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by macmtn View Post
    So...what is wrong with llamas that you hate them so?
    They trespass, obviously... And make sure they do it in such a way that gets the property owner in trouble. Llamas. Such drama.
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    One of my neighbors called AC on me because my 20lb dog ALLEGEDLY got in her yard and bit her. The "got in her yard" I will accept (through their crappy fence which they built on my property, but I digress) but the biting? I think not. He goes to agility every week and doesn't bite anything there dog or human so let's think about this.

    Also did I mention they have three dogs themselves, each one of which weighs more than all of my three dogs combined?

    So anyway, Animal Control appeared that evening, explaining how a dog bite was reported and do I have rabies certs for everyone. Yes indeed.

    It is then explained to me that the 20lb dog apparently bit this adult individual IN THE BICEP (apparently he leapt up off the ground to do this?) , and that they went to the hospital. AC carries on that the hospital found no evidence of this "bite" and then refers to the "attack" making actual physical airquotes the rest of the conversation. It is also reported that she claims the only thing that saved her from breaking the skin was her jacket, she allegedly has a "hefty bruise" and they gave her a tetanus shot because of the "threat of dog saliva."

    This is a person who has three big dogs people.
    Who nevertheless apparently thinks it is plausible that a 20lb dog jumped up in the air to reach her bicep, bit down hard enough to cause a bruise, but NOT DAMAGE THE JACKET IN ANY WAY, and apparently saliva may have OSMOSED through this totally undamaged jacket to her skin, and dog saliva causes tetanus, apparently, didn't we know, let's go to the hospital.

    I think she saw the (used, with 140,000 miles on it) Benz parked in my driveway and thought there was a settlement to be had here.


    Anyhoo, the animal control officer continues to describe the "attack" with his airquotes, and then upon discovering that I foster dogs, asks me for my business card so that if Animal Control gets an extra small dog in can they call me?

    I think it is absolutely fabulous that this idiot neighbor's reporting of me will result in Animal Control dropping MORE dogs off at my house and say "You go right ahead sir!" He then thanks me for being such a "gracious lady," takes the card, and assures he will call me when the next small dog comes in.

    Sheesh.


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    Quote Originally Posted by trubandloki View Post
    I say it is still OK to call if you are truly concerned.

    It is not OK to go on the BOs property though. That is just wrong.

    Jingles for your mare.
    Agreed. I would have no problem if AC came onto my property to see any of my animals. If strangers came onto the property - well, yes I'd have a problem.


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