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    Default Covered arena height: 10 feet's way too short, right?

    I've read the threads on this, but because I am kind of a moron I need to verify.

    I've finally admitted defeat: outdoor arenas are unusable in the Texas summers, so we're putting up a roof in a pathetic attempt to keep from slizzling to death. Currently the drawings show the eave height at the outer edge of the roof at 13', with an interior clearance along the rail at only 10' under the 3'-thick beams! I feel like I'd have to move the rail in to keep any kind of decent head room, thus losing some of the width I'm paying through the nose for. Tell me I'm not nuts, and that 10' is absurdly measly. Some of the other threads suggest that the eave height should be at least 14', if not 16', but I wasn't sure if this meant exterior or interior. We won't be doing puissance in there but it'd be nice to jump 3'6 without literally going through the roof.
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    A higher roof line will also be cooler. The hot air will rise. Raise the roof !


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    Yep, you're not nuts. If you want jump 3'6" you will need at least a 16 ft roof and higher would be better for the hot air to escape.

    Who's trying to talk you into only 10'?
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    Definitely raise that roof! Not only because of heat... my trainers good friend died when her horse reared and smacked her head on a ceiling beam. She was wearing a helmet, but she still died upon impact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dreamingofdressage View Post
    Definitely raise that roof! Not only because of heat... my trainers good friend died when her horse reared and smacked her head on a ceiling beam. She was wearing a helmet, but she still died upon impact.
    Holy crap!
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    Quote Originally Posted by msj View Post
    Yep, you're not nuts. If you want jump 3'6" you will need at least a 16 ft roof and higher would be better for the hot air to escape.

    Who's trying to talk you into only 10'?
    Well, nobody's actually trying to talk me into it, but originally the building manufacturer quoted the price with an eave height of 13', which I thought seemed not too extravagant yet useable. Of course I wasn't taking into account the thickness of the steel supports. They shave 3 whole feet off, for a net interior clearance of only 10 feet. To clear even 15' of headroom on the rail, I'd have to move the rail fence in from the perimeter, shaving off nearly 20 feet of useable arena width. My contractor is also a roper, so surely he will see reason when I veto this design.

    How tall, I wonder, is the typical rearing horse?
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    When building my arena, I researched this and found 14 ft was the bare minimum for multi purpose arena.

    I went with 15 ft.

    Ten foot height sounds scary.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Crockpot View Post
    When building my arena, I researched this and 14 ft was the bare minimum.

    I went with 15 ft.
    Pretty much the ad hoc calculation I came up with: horse is about 6 foot tall, add about 3 for your noggin, you need a little more headroom for crow hops.
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    I believe that there is a safety factor here too: I know my local vet has 14 foot ceilings in her collection room so the stallions can't hit their heads in any way...it also presumably would be more calming for the horse to not feel confined by a low ceiling.



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    You want at least 14 feet between the ground at arena's edge and the lowest impactable object. Ditto for the center of the arena.
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    We are at 14' at the fence line (IIRC; I'm on the road and can't consult the drawings). That is more than adequate for general purpose work. If you're on a 17h horse jumping six feet...maybe you want a foot or two more.

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    Most commercial builders quote covered barns at 16' standard and 18' for roping.

    While you can get by maybe with shorter than 16', I would not do it if you can avoid it.



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    Just a thought.. do you have any plans to add ceiling fans or lights? Might want to add a little head room for those as well.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluey View Post
    Most commercial builders quote covered barns at 16' standard and 18' for roping.
    I am con-fused - why 18' for roping ?
    PSA: I am a total lifelong English rider, so forgive probable stoopid question.

    ETA: could it be to allow for thrown rope to not tangle in the rafters?

    My barn builder (specializing in equine bldgs) advised 14' standard and 16' for jumping.
    I went with 16' and am glad I did.

    Crone: your gut is right - 10' is mighty short for riding unless you have minis.
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    16' is definitely the usual recommendation around here.



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    10ft is scary low! The ceilings in my house are higher than that!

    I'd go as high as you can afford, but at least 15ft.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2DogsFarm View Post
    I am con-fused - why 18' for roping ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by clanter View Post
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    In roping the loop goes way above the rider's head, and adding arm length 18' would be a great idea. Funny Clanter!
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    Quote Originally Posted by clanter View Post
    Larger egos require greater clearance
    *snirk!!*

    Current house has vaulted ceilings...I'll have to keep that in mind when DH (roper) and I buy our next one.
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