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    Default Microchips are awesome/KWPN questions

    I've posted a few times in the last three years about trying to track down the identity of my gelding, who is branded Dutch but came to me without papers/passport. Anyway, I had given up. We're getting ready for his first CDI, so my vet came out to insert a microchip (as a 1997 we assumed he wouldn't have one). But, before doing so, she scanned him and found a one! With a few emails, I have now have a copy of his papers and his Dutch show record!

    This is my boy: http://www.horsetelex.com/horses/pedigree/100138

    Can anyone explain the notes after his registration number? and after 1999 in the box?

    I've googled lots of pictures of his sire since this came yesterday, but I had never heard of him before that. Did anyone know him? Have other offspring? I'm fascinated by this whole process, and so thankful that he was microchipped even though it wasn't required then. Thanks!



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    You sure have a good horse there. His breeding index is 160 which is high and he was presented to the second round as a stallion but was not accepted so this must be why he was gelded. But still, this is good.
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    Very very cool! Congrats on solving the mystery!
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    Thanks! He's pretty special to me. With any luck, we'll move up to the Intermediare II this year.

    So, if I understand, he was presented for stallion approval at 2 or 2.5? Is that the normal age?



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    We're warmbloods, and one of us has some "dutch blood." We're mostly Deutsche though, so we know that Ulft was a great horse and so was Ferro.

    Buy a few european/british warmblood books. We shall PM you a few names of them, so you can read about your horse's family.

    Chipping is good. We're chipped!



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    Ok he should be branded, as his keuring would have occurred when he was about 8 or 9 months old if he was born early in the year.



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    Quote Originally Posted by WildandWickedWarmbloods View Post
    Ok he should be branded, as his keuring would have occurred when he was about 8 or 9 months old if he was born early in the year.
    OP stated he was branded. But it would not have occurred when he was a foal, because the Dutch do not brand foals. They actually don't brand at all in Holland anymore, but they WERE still branding adult horses (age 3 or older) when the OP's horse was presented for breeding approval.

    Congrats, OP, he sounds like a very nice horse. And, yes, colts are usually presented for stallion approval in fall of their 2 year old year.



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    Quote Originally Posted by DownYonder View Post
    OP stated he was branded. But it would not have occurred when he was a foal, because the Dutch do not brand foals. They actually don't brand at all in Holland anymore, but they WERE still branding adult horses (age 3 or older) when the OP's horse was presented for breeding approval.

    Congrats, OP, he sounds like a very nice horse. And, yes, colts are usually presented for stallion approval in fall of their 2 year old year.
    R You sure DY? Was it only three year olds at the Keurings as the KWPN used to brand first premium foals before it was abolished in the Netherlands in the UK. That was in the days when they had first, second and third premiums.



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    We thought the Dutch used to do the same as the Deutsche, branding as foals at the keuring. One of us was branded first premium at 9 months or age, maybe that was 8 months.

    Stallion approval comes later after keuring in Germany. We thought the Dutch did the same.

    Anyhow, with Ferro and Ulft in his breeding, not too far back, he's got some good bloodlines there.



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    The Dutch don't brand until the horse is presented for studbook at age 3 or older - and that is in the US. In the Netherland, as in Germany, branding is no longer done and hasn't been in quite some time. Dutch foals get evaluated at a keuring (it's not mandatory) and then get rated 1st, 2nd or 3rd premium. Foals are generally still at the mare's side when going through the keuring. Hope this helps....
    Siegi Belz
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    2007 KWPN-NA Breeder of the Year
    Dutch Warmbloods Made in the U. S. A.



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    I had a similarly awesome experience with a KWPN microchip in a horse that a friend was buying. Don't think that the seller was quite as thrilled.

    The vet doing the pre-purchase exam found the chip, wrote down the #, I came on here for help, and had the horse ID'd in a day or two with verification from KWPN.
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