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    vet also suspects abcess due to something like thistle or other foreign particle in hay, ground bee sting, etc. however, could be something else more involved like a sarcoid or something horrible like that. problem is a biopsy is needed and sometimes cutting into something like that makes it far worse. so for now we are treating like an abcess. none of the other horses have anything so I don't know about the hay containing something. there is no swelling on the outside of mouth, no temp, eating just fine, etc. this is an old retired rescued horse - he hasn't done anything in 9 years so no worries with riding him and having a bit in his mouth. he loves his wet hay and wet grain, is able to easily eat carrots and apples so he thinks life is still ok!

    any other ideas?

    others who have seen something like this - was it this big? this is huge!

    thanks for posting pictures The Jenners!



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    I have a photo in a book that looks very similar to that. Its from a Bot fly. Do you get bots in US? Have you wormed with Ivermectin at all? If not might be worth worming him. I will send the pic to The Jenners (hope thats okay The Jenners) as i can't private message because of the adverts!



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    Sure, glad to help :-)
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    Thanks TheJenners. I've just emailed you again and remembered to attach the pic this time!



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    No prob. I'll post this afternoon when I get back. My phone can't do it.
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    OK, so I was a little late. Training and driving and decompressing from a week of same...

    Here's the pic!


    There is a remarkable resemblance.
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    that does look similar! haven't done fecal count yet but I guess I will put it on my list!

    thanks!



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    Check out the thread on Summer Sores. I had never heard of summer sores so I googled and saw this:

    http://veterinarynews.dvm360.com/dvm....jsp?id=789880

    Looks like what your horse has.

    Here's the CoTH thread started by countrywoods:

    http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/sh...st-summer-sore
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    I agree. I have seen a horse with a summer sore that looked just like that on his lip. It started as a cut then the flies got to it and it turned into a summer sore.



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    where would I find topical ivermectin?



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    Those two sores look identical to me! WOW.

    Just use it straight from an ivermectin tube. Apply like sunscreen or lotion. Blob it on.

    I would worm also.



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    wormed with zimectrin gold on sunday, which was dumb cause now I have to wait to do fecal! but their fecals always come back negative - I haven't had positive fecals in ages, although I do worm as vet recommends.

    have been putting regular ivermectin on sore. it seemed to irritate it - became more red and bloody. should I expect that?



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    Zimectrin Gold can cause mouth ulcers like that. I don't understand why it has not been pulled from the market. If you used it topically on that sore, that may also explain why it made it worse.



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    I don't know that the horse would necessarily have an intestinal bot problem if the sore is due to a bot fly. I'm thinking the sore would be caused by a bite or even bot fly larvae right inside the sore.



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    I am using regular ivermectin on mouth sore but I wormed with ivermectin gold. it seems a bit better today. it doesn't bother him at all, although I have still been wetting hay and grain.



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    Did you tell the vet that you had used Zimectrin Gold? I agree with Paris, it's a shame this product hasn't been pulled from the market. Corporate greed at its worst.
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    It looks like a summer sore to me
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    sore in mouth was there before I wormed with Zimectrin Gold. have been using regular ivermectin topically. it seemed better today-more grey than red and looks like it I starting to shrink.


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    Make sure there is no Giant Fox Tail in your hay. the barbs from this weed create sores in the gums.



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