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  1. #21
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    Also this is your second bit thread. Your last thread you were asking about a slow twist for your 3 year old. I think the majority of the responses are that your issue is not with the bit, but with the training. I think your looking for another response to the same question....



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    findeight, I am gonna get rid the bungee and start the side reins like you suggested and lunge that way. I think he could go back in the double jointed snaffle then and we can work our way back to happy place undersaddle. Teeth are all good, just checked in Nov 2012 and March this year.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Rach29 View Post
    costco_muffins, great feedback! My guy and I have been arguing about everyother ride and nothing is getting communicated. I need him to be less argumentative and my thought was this bit may help us accomplish that. Having to half halt or half every few steps leads to an unproductive and frustrating ride. I like to take my guy out of the ring and would like more contact out in the pastures as well. He really likes going out but when he gets bossy and too opinionated, I need to make my point effectively with out hanging on his face.
    What bit do you like to use in between using the combo?

    On the OTTB: Myler comfort snaffle (exact same mouthpiece as the combo, just without the combo elements) in a Hunter Dee.

    On the Hunter: For schooling he goes in a French Link with a hunter dee, for showing he is in a waterford with a hunter dee.

    For my lesson and drill horse: French link loose ring with the kiddos and hubby, a western version of a Pessoa Gag for foxhunting and gaming


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    My horse got waaay worse behind the vertical in the combo....FWIW...



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    UPDATE - Back in the curved dee ring snaffle with copper lozenge and ditched the martingale. Several fabulous rides, he is really moving off my leg and into the bridle. Working on him listening to my body cues and he seems much happier and attentive.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Petstorejunkie View Post
    fwiw that seems to be his favorite bit to recommend.
    he recommended it for a seasoned horse suddenly getting strong after fences and a green horse that was a known flipper...
    I've been corresponding with Dale and yes, he recommended that for my green mustang I've been riding for six months in a side pull. She hated the Comfort Snaffle. I'm really not willing to bit her up in a complicated outfit. She seemed to like the simple two piece sweet iron snaffle better. Thoroughly confused and since it's her very first bit, want to make the right choice. I'm just not feeling this combo thing. Will be doing more research. I'm guessing the Combo is the most expensive rig they offer.



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    Default Back to basics

    If it were me, (and I've had OTTBs, they only know how to run through a bit) I would rent Buck Branamman's DVD about colt starting. Start at ground zero. Teach your horse to give to pressure and see how soft you can get him. I taught my mustang every thing we do in the saddle, on the ground. Bending, giving to pressure, moving the hindquarters and forequarters from a touch of the stirrup, from the ground, before I ever got on her. Saved me a world of hurt. The basics are the basics in whatever discipline you ride. Watching will also help you evaluate a professional trainer if you choose to go that way. Good luck. I love a soft, soft horse.



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    I have had success with d-ring shallow port mullens on TBs that are fussy with a bit. It is stable, comfortable, and a very simple bit. Here are two examples that I own: http://www.bombers.co.za/bits-by-col...mber-blue.html and http://www.thehorsebitshop.co.uk/product.php?xProd=653. As training advances I move to something with more finesse.



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    This is a 3 year old thread, OP hasn't been back at all for over a year.
    When opportunity knocks it's wearing overalls and looks like work.

    The horse world. Two people. Three opinions.


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    I've always ridden young horses in fat snaffles. My favorite was the hollow mouth full cheek, but you can also find hollow mouth dee rings, and eggbutts (also come in different weights).

    I agree with most of the about posts in that it doesn't seem like a bit problem, it seems like rider error. "Heavy" elbows and educated hands may help this situation.

    My love for quiet hands and a soft, responsive horse which steers me away from any kind of combo bits, especially for an unbalanced horse...



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