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    Unhappy Forced to put gelding with hind gut issues onto antibiotics/bute :( Sucks! Advice?

    So my hind gut ulcer/right dorsal colitis boy now has cellulitis on his hind leg from scratches and he has to be on antibiotics even though this is bad news for his hind gut issues. I have him on SmartDigest Ultra right now which has probiotics in it, which I hope will mitigate the damage from the antibiotics (and he had a shot of banamine today because he was so sore on the leg) I have
    bute if I absolutely need to give him some tomorrow but I'm going to try not to.

    I have some Equiotic probiotics at my shipping outlet in Montana (about a 4.5 hour drive one way) and am toying with the idea of driving down and back tomorrow so that I can give it to him in the hopes that it will help him while he's on the antibiotics. I think it's going to be more effective than the probiotics in the SmartDigest Ultra. The thought of spending 9 hours straight driving is not overly appealing....

    Does anyone else have any suggestions of what else I could give him? Yeast?



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    You could give him a cup of yogurt twice a day in a pinch. Some will eat it mixed with grain others you have to syringe. I'd also have him on at least ranitidine preferably omeprazole while on any NSAID.
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    Thanks for the reminder. I will throw some pop rocks in with his dinner tonight. I think I'm just going to suck it up and do the 9 hour drive tomorrow.



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    Biosponge maybe?

    Order some Equishure?



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    I just put my horse on the Equiotics, he's 2 months post colic surgery and he sure is a happier boy. The surgeon is the one who recommended it, as I'd never even heard of it before. I've had my horses on probiotics for over 10 years, and this is the 1st one that I've seen a change in him, he's much happier and less needy.



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    Simkie - he's actually on Equishure already Thanks for the suggestion.

    Callmeacab -glad to hear its been working for your boy. My vet at the time (an internal specialist from the University) is the one the recommended Equiotics to me. I had my boy on it for a month and it seemed to be doing some good but then they had troubles getting the shipments through the border.
    Last edited by bucksnort; May. 3, 2013 at 03:45 PM.



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    Is there any one who is coming your way from Montana and can bring your suppliment 1/2 way? Maybe pay someone's gas to help you out?



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    Can you use previcox for pain control instead of bute?

    Or Voltaren Gel?



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    Oh, no! Hope he feels better very soon! 9 hours driving??? Pshaw, easy-peasy
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    Thanks Fanfayre He is definitely feeling better and luckily I did not have to give him any bute, so he just had the one shot of banamine. I drove down to Montana and back with a friend to pick up the EquiOtics and was thoroughly interrogated by border patrol on both sides (I guess we looked a little Thelma and Louisey to them???). The border man going down said "let me get this straight, you drove 5 hours to get probiotics for your horse?? Doesn't make sense" and all I could squeek back was "he's on antibiotics" wherein I was thinking love doesn't make sense and don't you know anything about hind gut ulcers you idiot!!! lol but then he left me through

    His temp is down to 37.5 and he cantered circles around me today after I rewrapped him so I'm thinking he feels good and hopefully the probiotics will keep the antibotics from doing any further colon damage. Horses!!

    And Simkie thanks for the suggest of Previcox. If he ever is in need for pain meds again I will ask my vet about that


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    Quote Originally Posted by bucksnort View Post
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    His temp is down to 37.5
    You sure he is still alive?!
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    LOL. Weird that the American horses would all be dead at that temp, but the Canadian horses seem to do quite well there


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    Quote Originally Posted by SuckerForHorses View Post
    You sure he is still alive?!
    Celsius. That's about 99F.

    To the OP-- I was going to recommend Equishure to regulate the pH of the hindgut temporarily and probiotics to help replace any microbial loss, but it sounds like you've got that covered!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bucksnort View Post
    LOL. Weird that the American horses would all be dead at that temp, but the Canadian horses seem to do quite well there
    I'd believe it
    Didnt Canada develop the "iron" horse (those are very neat little horses.).



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    Quote Originally Posted by bucksnort View Post
    LOL. Weird that the American horses would all be dead at that temp, but the Canadian horses seem to do quite well there
    *snort*

    Sorry, this made me giggle.



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