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    Default Totilas scratched again from competition

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    Tot - I - las......
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    I had no idea there had been a line of Totilas clothing...interesting.

    Showing a breeding stallion can be tricky, not in the least because of the risk of injury like this. I hope he pulls out of it and doesn't remain a "sport invalid," as Rath puts it.



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    So i have a question to you they know better than I. I'm not much up on breeding horses because I never have and never plan to. Been around horses that have bred at a farm I was at but I was one of those back yard type breedings ughh. Anyways. For a horse this caliber do they usually do live breedings when the horse is still competing? Do they not just get straws?
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    Quote Originally Posted by siegi b. View Post
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    Thank you. It escapes me how One can read an article about the horse and post it with his name in the title of the thread, and misspell his name.

    As for the subject at hand, it's a shame things aren't panning our for Rath. I feel bad for him.
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    Those martingales were so taut, you could play Ode to Joy on them with a comb


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    Quote Originally Posted by rabicon View Post
    So i have a question to you they know better than I. I'm not much up on breeding horses because I never have and never plan to. Been around horses that have bred at a farm I was at but I was one of those back yard type breedings ughh. Anyways. For a horse this caliber do they usually do live breedings when the horse is still competing? Do they not just get straws?
    They usually still have to get the stallion to jump on a dummy in order to collect it. That is where injuries can happen. It can be very stressfull and wearisome depending on the stallion.

    Only a few can be collected from just standing.

    I doubt they would do live cover.


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    I'm not sure which way they go with his breeding, live or straws. Even if it isn't live cover, getting up and down off the phantom can still be a bit tricky if the horse is feeling frisky. A stallion at a farm I worked at ALWAYS wanted to mount the phantom sideways. He'd bang around a bit (no pun intended), and finally get down and go about it the right way.

    Not sure if Totilas' knee injury is from a mare in live cover or not.


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    Quote Originally Posted by siegi b. View Post
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    Shame on me. I knew that. Thanks siegi.



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    Quote Originally Posted by SillyHorse View Post
    Thank you. It escapes me how One can read an article about the horse and post it with his name in the title of the thread, and misspell his name.

    It's called Lyme fog. It escapes me why "one" is capitalized.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rabicon View Post
    So i have a question to you they know better than I. I'm not much up on breeding horses because I never have and never plan to. Been around horses that have bred at a farm I was at but I was one of those back yard type breedings ughh. Anyways. For a horse this caliber do they usually do live breedings when the horse is still competing? Do they not just get straws?
    How do you think that they GET the straws? Even if it's not live cover, there is still risk for the stallion being collected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rabicon View Post
    So i have a question to you they know better than I. I'm not much up on breeding horses because I never have and never plan to. Been around horses that have bred at a farm I was at but I was one of those back yard type breedings ughh. Anyways. For a horse this caliber do they usually do live breedings when the horse is still competing? Do they not just get straws?
    That varies by stallion. There are several stallions that compete and still collect and ship fresh cooled semen - but it takes a stallion who is good on the phantom AND understands he has to put it away for competition. AND owners who are willing to find the stallion stations convenient to where they are competing. Some stallion owners will put in "black out" dates for certain shows. Several stallion owners on this board have stallions who both compete and collect. We competed and collected my stallions. But again, not all stallions can mentally (and/or physically) handle this challenge. It doesn't mean they are bad stallions - breeding/testosterone is what it is!


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    Quote Originally Posted by alicen View Post
    It's called Lyme fog. It escapes me why "one" is capitalized.
    I asked for that!
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    Those martingales were so taut, you could play Ode to Joy on them with a comb


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    Quote Originally Posted by Squirt View Post
    How do you think that they GET the straws? Even if it's not live cover, there is still risk for the stallion being collected.
    Well I know they use a dummy. Lol I'm not that much of a dummy about it lol. But, since never being around that I thought using a dummy was pretty safe in itself. So now I've learned not so much. This is why i thought maybe they did a live cover and he got injured by the mare. I didn't realize that they can just as easily hurt themselves on a dummy. Maybe I am a dummy lol. Thanks guys.
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    Oh, and my op above was suppose to be it was a backyard breeder. Not I sorry about that. I've never breed one.
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    A stallion that is not even 1/10 of the value of Totilas would never get close to a mare for breeding (unless it's a TB). But even horses who use a dummy get hurt.

    Too bad about the scratch. It is hard to serve 2 masters.
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    For some reason Matthias always seems somewhat relieved when reporting that the horse won't be showing. Maybe something is lost in the translation.
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    Come now, we know what pros horses are at hurting themselves in even mundane situations. Getting overly frisky with a dummy? Yeah, seems probable!


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    My Prediction: this horse will never compete again. he will be "plagued by injuries" and retire to his stud duties.

    The only exception would be if Sven R. works miracles with the pair -- he has quite abit of time to try it....

    They are not going to risk showing the world that T. is FAR from pushbutton, and most of what made him HIM was Gal.


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    The only exception would be if Sven R. works miracles with the pair
    DO you mean Sven Rothenberger? WhAT does he have to do with it?



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