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    Question When a transition comes between two letters...? NVM - I made a mistake!

    I rode Intro A at a combined test schooling show last weekend. This is not my first time riding an intro test, but it is the first time I got dinged for where I made a transition.

    The test calls for a transition from walk to trot between C and M. I like to use the corner for prep and then begin the transition. When I got the test back, I got a 5 for the transition with the comment: Transition should be AT M.

    What confused me even more was the score I got on the transition from trot to medium walk between C and H: it was a 6 with the comment: horse spooked at something. My horse did shy a bit at a plant, but my transition was still somewhere in the middle of the two letters.

    So, I got a higher score on a between the letters transition when my horse spooked even though the transition was not at the second of the 2 letters?

    Aren't the transitions supposed to come between the letters since the intro test doesn't call for precise moves except for the halt at X?
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    If the test says between c and m, then you should not be penalized unless you transition is outside that range. Was your transition after m? Perhaps the judge just read the movement wrong.

    Your goal should be to put the transition half way between c and m. However, if the horse feels ready a stride early, or a stride late- you have that flexibility. It lets you pick the moment when the horse is best prepared.


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    Quote Originally Posted by joiedevie99 View Post
    If the test says between c and m, then you should not be penalized unless you transition is outside that range. Was your transition after m? Perhaps the judge just read the movement wrong.

    Your goal should be to put the transition half way between c and m. However, if the horse feels ready a stride early, or a stride late- you have that flexibility. It lets you pick the moment when the horse is best prepared.
    Thank you.

    My transition was about halfway between C and M, just after the corner. I have the video which shows it was not after M. My ride time was 8:10 AM so perhaps the judge wasn't quite awake yet!
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    I've been riding Intro B and C with my green almost 5 year old gelding, and my trainer told me to aim for the mid-point between the letters for the transition. In actual shows, I've been off a stride or two (and even at the second letter once or twice) but I haven't received any comment about early transitions. Joiedevie99 said it best.



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    Quote Originally Posted by joiedevie99 View Post
    If the test says between c and m, then you should not be penalized unless you transition is outside that range. Was your transition after m? Perhaps the judge just read the movement wrong.

    Your goal should be to put the transition half way between c and m. However, if the horse feels ready a stride early, or a stride late- you have that flexibility. It lets you pick the moment when the horse is best prepared.
    Thank you.

    My transition was about halfway between C and M, just after the corner. I have the video which shows it was not after M. My ride time was 8:10 AM so perhaps the judge wasn't quite awake yet!
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    It has been a very long time since I've ridden an intro test, but I was always told that the transition could take place anywhere between the two letters. After all, the instructions are "BETWEEN M and C" not "Halfway or 1/4 way" or whatever. The whole point is to give you latitude to enable you to set up the horse ideally to perform the transition smoothly and in balance. It sounds like this judge needs more education.
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    I am assuming you are talking about movement 2, the first transition after the centerline? Looking at the official test, it lists the transition as being at M, not between C and M.

    Compare to movement 6, where it actually says, "between C & H"

    http://www.usdf.org/docs/tests/dressage/introa.pdf



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    Quote Originally Posted by suzy View Post
    It has been a very long time since I've ridden an intro test, but I was always told that the transition could take place anywhere between the two letters. After all, the instructions are "BETWEEN M and C" not "Halfway or 1/4 way" or whatever. The whole point is to give you latitude to enable you to set up the horse ideally to perform the transition smoothly and in balance. It sounds like this judge needs more education.
    Quote Originally Posted by oreobob View Post
    I am assuming you are talking about movement 2, the first transition after the centerline? Looking at the official test, it lists the transition as being at M, not between C and M.

    Compare to movement 6, where it actually says, "between C & H"

    http://www.usdf.org/docs/tests/dressage/introa.pdf
    Ugh...you're right, I screwed up and misread it. That's what I get for not preparing properly.
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