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  1. #101
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    Has anyone been to a foreign country which is 'home' to Americans?
    Whether they are there with the military, a job or what have you.

    You'd be surprised how many of them simply refuse to learn the local language and expect everyone else to communicate with them in English.
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    Quote Originally Posted by horsehand View Post
    It is ironic that Ceasar Chavez was against illegal immigration.

    Cesar Chavez opposed illegal immigration as he felt it left illegal immigrants open to exploitation at lower wages and abuse by employers because of their status and it undermined legal Farm Workers.
    What you failed to mention is that he was a strong advocate of immigration reform (i.e making it easier to enter the US legally) and a strong supporter of the Amnesty bill passed by Reagan in 80's that granted residency to illegal immigrants.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey the Marcher View Post
    Cesar Chavez opposed illegal immigration as he felt it left illegal immigrants open to exploitation at lower wages and abuse by employers because of their status and it undermined legal Farm Workers.
    What you failed to mention is that he was a strong advocate of immigration reform (i.e making it easier to enter the US legally) and a strong supporter of the Amnesty bill passed by Reagan in 80's that granted residency to illegal immigrants.
    Of course he supported Reagan's Amnesty bill. As long as it happened here vs. there, everything's good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poltroon View Post
    Texas elects not to have income tax, and has a moderate/low sales tax, so it's not a surprise that they have higher property taxes. Tax burden overall ends up being in the same range as other states.
    Interesting…so, if one elects to move to Texas, you can save major money by simply renting…save all of your income sans federal taxes, and then put a nice down payment on a home in an area with low property taxes...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eye in the Sky View Post
    Interesting…so, if one elects to move to Texas, you can save major money by simply renting…save all of your income sans federal taxes, and then put a nice down payment on a home in an area with low property taxes...
    Yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eye in the Sky View Post
    Interesting…so, if one elects to move to Texas, you can save major money by simply renting…save all of your income sans federal taxes, and then put a nice down payment on a home in an area with low property taxes...
    Except that rentals have the cost of them built into the rent, so your rent is higher to offset the cost of property taxes the owner pays.


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    Sounds like living in El Paso is quite horrible. Why not move?
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    Hidden in the current immigration bill;

    http://news.investors.com/041713-652...#ixzz2Qr4NFDOU

    Oh yeah, those politicos really care about legal citizens
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eye in the Sky View Post
    Sounds like living in El Paso is quite horrible. Why not move?
    It's not horrible. The weather is great, scenery is pretty, board is cheap. It's also the safest city of its size in the country.
    My complaint is with the cost of supporting illegal immigrants. You just learn to hope you don't get into any car accidents with people with Mexico license plates,or illegal aliens from Mexico as they don't have insurance so you will pay for all of your damages. If we didn't have to pay for bigger/more schools, and their medical care taxes would be cheaper. Offering amnesty is a huge mistake as it rewards illegal activity, and will encourage a huge influx of more that will be wanting to take advantage of our country's benefits.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jetsmom View Post
    It's not horrible. The weather is great, scenery is pretty, board is cheap. It's also the safest city of its size in the country.
    My complaint is with the cost of supporting illegal immigrants. You just learn to hope you don't get into any car accidents with people with Mexico license plates,or illegal aliens from Mexico as they don't have insurance so you will pay for all of your damages. If we didn't have to pay for bigger/more schools, and their medical care taxes would be cheaper. Offering amnesty is a huge mistake as it rewards illegal activity, and will encourage a huge influx of more that will be wanting to take advantage of our country's benefits.

    ^^This^^ Also, I have to wonder why McCain is pushing amnesty when during a photo op of several politicians surveying border security in Arizona, a woman scaled the fence right in front of them. He even tweeted about it. Do you think it even crossed his mind that she was crossing over hoping for the bennies amnesty offers?

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    Amnesty is not at all the same as a path to citizenship or immigration reform.

    Your complaints about Mexican nationals bringing large numbers of kids to your schools from their homes in Mexico daily (hundreds is not actually a large number in the grand scheme of things, even if that is completely accurate) may or may not be so. (And anyone who is crossing the border through the checkpoint has some legal US status.) But to the extent it exists, it's a local issue - because it's certainly allowed for schools to verify residency within their district and is done all the time in every state.

    If the people you're concerned about truly are here illegally, creating a path to legal status also gives the law more hold on them in terms of insisting that they have medical insurance, car insurance, that employers pay them within the law and withhold taxes, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poltroon View Post
    Amnesty is not at all the same as a path to citizenship or immigration reform.

    Your complaints about Mexican nationals bringing large numbers of kids to your schools from their homes in Mexico daily (hundreds is not actually a large number in the grand scheme of things, even if that is completely accurate) may or may not be so. (And anyone who is crossing the border through the checkpoint has some legal US status.) But to the extent it exists, it's a local issue - because it's certainly allowed for schools to verify residency within their district and is done all the time in every state.

    If the people you're concerned about truly are here illegally, creating a path to legal status also gives the law more hold on them in terms of insisting that they have medical insurance, car insurance, that employers pay them within the law and withhold taxes, etc.
    When as many as 500 children from Mexico are attending school in a border town such as Del Rio, it wrecks havoc on the city/county budget.
    http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/09/11/texas.border.schools/

    IMO, people that came her illegally broke the law and continue to do so by stealing identities and driving without a license. As I pointed out earlier, they have been allowed to get away with this up to now so why would they suddenly become law abiding citizens when given amnesty? Amnesty rewards their breaking the law.
    And why won't the government enforce the laws already in place?? Obama and Napalitano have instructed ICE and Border Patrol to back off apprehensions to the point that Border Patrol is suing DHS.

    http://foreignpolicyblogs.com/2013/0...s-and-cartels/
    "When a president can pick and choose which laws to follow and which to ignore, he is no longer a president. " Ted Cruz



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