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  1. #61
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    Good luck. You really went above and beyond only to get the no good deed goes unpunished. And people wonder why so many will not do trials. Good luck getting everything sorted out
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    Please report back to us when you have the pony back in your care, and OUT that no good sonofableep trainer who colluded with the 'wannabe buyers' to jerk you around.
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    I'd offer to pay for 1/2 the cost of the PPE to get written permission from them for the vet to release results to you. I bet they never got one done. I think they either just wanted a pony to show or trainer wanted a free pony for client to show, while she tries to flip him at show and make more money.
    On the off chance they agree to give you permission (and before I would send them a dime, I would call vet, verify PPE, what was done and what was paid..), get the PPE, as it will help you with future clients at a reduced cost to you.


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    They said come get the pony now. So I'd go get the pony now. If trainer isn't responding, I'd just show up.

    You've seen their true colors. The longer you wait, the more chance of things going badly.


    Id also be telling my trainer to go above the other trainer and contact the BO, who she knows. There's been no response and I'd be getting nervous at this point.


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  5. #65
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    Wow, no response?! This makes me really nervous. Please let us know when you get your pony back and how it went.


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    I would be on my way ASAP to get the pony, the lack of communication always scares me!


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    I hate to say this, but we still haven't heard from this trainer!! It is 4:30 on the east coast and she left him another message about this. I cannot believe that we are still dealing with this.

    I am disappointed in both trainers at this point (yes, my trainer too). I know it's a busy show weekend for our barn, but she needs to go get my pony. This was her contact and she set up this trial with them. I do not have a truck and trailer to get her myself.

    I can't believe this.


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    I am making calls now to see if anyone I know who has a truck and trailer is free tomorrow to make a 6 hour drive....


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    Where exactly are you located? Rough area of where pony is? (Without throwing anyone under the bus, and potentially ruffling feathers). I wonder if there's anyone who could at least stop by to see pony and help you feel a little more at ease until you can arrange a pick-up. Heck, I bet there's some COTHers who'd hook up their truck/trailer for a good "hero" story, gas money and lunch!


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    Good luck with your pony OP. Hope all goes well.
    Keep us updated please.



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    Ok, a good friend of mine (who has just been elevated to GREAT friend status), is willing to drive for 6 hours tomorrow on her day off (she works 2 jobs) with me and get my pony.

    That trainer has NOT called back. Now my biggest concern is will the pony be there when we get there?! Do we call and let them know we are coming or do we just show up?

    I am losing faith in my own trainer to get this handled properly. I really think at this point that she should be the one getting her on Monday (barn is closed that day and it's the day off for the horses) with her truck and trailer.

    I am very disappointed with this whole situation. I wish the whole thing was handled better all around. I've learned some valuable lessons and I know my trainer has too. I can only hope that by sharing this story, it can help others.

    I will keep everyone updated on our progress and will certainly update when the pony is back safe and sound. Thanks again for your concerns!

    Once we have our pony back, I am more than willing to share this trainer's name and barn so that others do not go through what we are going through!! I have a feeling he will be looking for more ponies for his client....


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    At this point with the zero communication you have received from this trainer I would just show up and get my pony. If you feel like you need to contact someone and let them know you are coming you could try the BO, but then it might get back to the trainer, and the way the guy is acting who knows what he'd do.

    Good luck!



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    I have not been speaking to the buyers directly. I know nothing about them. It's all been done through my trainer and their trainer.
    Major mistake no matter what anyone says....Go get your pony..the next thing you know she will at a horse show with this kid and if does not go well your Ponies rep will be tarnished. a month trail is WAY to long.


    As norcalammie says this is the correct way to approach the situtation...you are 100% correct.

    They can bring her back to your barn - at their expense as they were to have a one week then two week trial. They can come to your barn and rider her if they need some additional saddle time. If they want to show her, is your trainer perhaps going to the same show? Maybe the pony can go with your trainer and your daughter can show her and the prospective buyer can rider her in a class or two to see how she reacts in a show environment.

    I know someone who took a horse on a weeks trial asked for another week...took horse to show changed his name he was Reserve Chmp @ a recgnzd H/J show they then bargained his price down!!! telling owner since he had no show record his value was decreased!!!! Yup this is all true....They eventually re sold him for close to $200K



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    Unbelievable lack of class. I hope all goes well, good luck!



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    Quote Originally Posted by jenct View Post
    Ok, a good friend of mine (who has just been elevated to GREAT friend status), is willing to drive for 6 hours tomorrow on her day off (she works 2 jobs) with me and get my pony.

    That trainer has NOT called back. Now my biggest concern is will the pony be there when we get there?! Do we call and let them know we are coming or do we just show up?

    I am losing faith in my own trainer to get this handled properly. I really think at this point that she should be the one getting her on Monday (barn is closed that day and it's the day off for the horses) with her truck and trailer.

    I am very disappointed with this whole situation. I wish the whole thing was handled better all around. I've learned some valuable lessons and I know my trainer has too. I can only hope that by sharing this story, it can help others.

    I will keep everyone updated on our progress and will certainly update when the pony is back safe and sound. Thanks again for your concerns!

    Once we have our pony back, I am more than willing to share this trainer's name and barn so that others do not go through what we are going through!! I have a feeling he will be looking for more ponies for his client....
    I would be FURIOUS.

    Show up there. Someone will know where they are if they aren't at their barn. If needed, call them once there (block your caller ID, they won't know it is you calling...) Were they supposed to go at a show? Which one? Call the secretary at the show and see if your pony is registered, or if the Trainer is going there...

    If they are at the show. Go at the show and get your pony there. (Yes, the little buyers' kid might cry but let them explain him/her the situation)

    Involve the authorities if needed.

    As for your trainer.... can I suggest you find a new one? Really....


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    Make sure you take appropriate paperwork showing you are the pony's owner. Coggins, health papers, registration papers, whatever you have in case they are jerks and you need authorities involved or something. You never know.

    Once when we moved our horses from a trainer in a bad situation, our lawyer advised us to do just that, just in case it got ugly. Jingles he is home safe by this time tomorrow.


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    Ugh. Turns out we can't get her until Monday afternoon (my friend has a work schedule conflict for tomorrow). I'll have to hang in one more day unless that trainer gets my pony to a mutual show ground drop off point tomorrow. But no, he has not returned numerous messages from my trainer.

    I expressed my concerns about the pony's well-being to my trainer. She kind of brushed it off - "well, we left her there to buy her and you were not worried." I said - "True, but at this point I am concerned about her because the trainer is not returning calls. We didn't give him what he wanted & he's being a complete a$$. We didn't expect this to happen so I have no faith or trust with him or his barn anymore. She should've been home already." My trainer told me to "sit tight."

    I do like my trainer very much and we have been with her for some time. I am just so unhappy with how everything has been handled. This is our first selling experience. DD's last pony was happily retired on my aunt's farm. He's fat and happy right now with all day turnout on acres and acres and acres of grass. This pony is too young to retire and has lots to teach another child!

    I'm sorry for all of you following this saga that it seems it may stretch into Monday... unless by some miracle this guy does the right thing tomorrow.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Beckham03 View Post
    Make sure you take appropriate paperwork showing you are the pony's owner. Coggins, health papers, registration papers, whatever you have in case they are jerks and you need authorities involved or something. You never know.

    Once when we moved our horses from a trainer in a bad situation, our lawyer advised us to do just that, just in case it got ugly. Jingles he is home safe by this time tomorrow.
    Good idea. Thank you, Beckham03!!


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    Making a decision to sell does not mean you don't care. Your trainer is just feeling defensive. Don't let her make YOU feel bad. I am still in touch with my horse of 9 years prior owner, and regularly get pics and updates from the new owner of the horse I sold last summer. Heck, the person who sold me THAT horse 6 years ago just put me on to the horse I bought 3 weeks ago.
    There are good people out there, and you can find a home for your pony that you will feel comfortable about.
    Best of luck getting her home in short order. I would certainly be pushing your trainer to get her on Monday if it's not done before that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jenct View Post
    I expressed my concerns about the pony's well-being to my trainer. She kind of brushed it off - "well, we left her there to buy her and you were not worried."
    And??? WTF... you were not worried because you trusted your trainer, this trainer and the buyer.


    My trainer told me to "sit tight."
    Really!?!

    You are not a whining kid. This is YOUR poney, YOUR time, YOUR MONEY for C..Sake... and your OWN KID is WAITING for a new poney.

    I would have your trainer sit tight in her truck and drive me to get my damn poney.

    Do yourself a big favor, change trainer asap.

    I would tell your trainer that s/he will be taken responsible from now on for any problem the pony might have. S/he wanted a commission on the sale, she was responsible for the sale, there!!!

    I'm really sorry for you and, despite the fact that I truly believe they won't harm your pony and that s/he is in her stall munching quietly on hay, can't believe how true jerks people can be...


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