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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by SnicklefritzG View Post
    "on paper, he looks pretty darn good."

    A lot of things look good on paper, but in reality...
    Exactly. But what was USEF to do ?
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    Why can't they get a really good person from Europe to come over, with a track record of coaching successful international teams? At least someone who can get the best out of what we have? I think Mr. Dover comes with too much baggage and drama.

    I get the impression that part of our problem is that we only have one Ravel (albeit retired now) and one Legolas, whereas a lot of other international teams have several horses all of that quality. What do others think?



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    I know nothing about this, but it seems to me that if they want to have an American, but the Americans applying/available aren't the best candidate, why not get a non- USian to do this, then have promising up and comer be second in command/mentee, so we can get someone coming along for the next go 'round?



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    Umm.. I could be mistaken but I believe our last 2 "coaches" were non-"USian".
    Balkenhol and Gribbons.



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    It was a setup. They had already decided on Dover as soon as he applied. They just threw in the other name as a distraction. They used exactly the same tactics when David O'Connor was selected as eventing coach/chef.
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    Diabolical it is !! Subversive!! There should be an investigation!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by skydy View Post
    Umm.. I could be mistaken but I believe our last 2 "coaches" were non-"USian".
    Balkenhol and Gribbons.
    Others commented that he might have been chosen b/c they wanted an American.



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    Thumbs up Give him a chance

    Congratulations to Robert on this hard won position.
    First of all, who would want this thankless, highly visible job? No matter what he does or does not do, it will never satisfy everyone.

    I have known Robert for many years now. Either indirectly through being a friend of long time students or directly as he helped train/coach Don Principe last year. The Robert of today is not the person people remember from his competition days. He has stong opinions and is not afraid to voice them or fight for them. Look at his role in the Global Dressage Festival development. Don't we want someone who will stand up for us?

    Robert is a genrous person as he demonstrated many times over many years. Both with his time and his expertise. Look at the benefits he helped plan and participate in for Courtney when she was injured, The Equine Aid Foundation, which he help to found, as well as the Dressage4kids and riders for helmets.

    His ability to win medals is not the measure of his experience or ability to TEACH or COACH.

    I can personally vouch for his ability to coach horse and rider. And think that he has far reaching visions, that if given a fair chance, can do us much good.
    Maryanna Haymon- Marydell Farm - Home to Don Principe & Doctor Wendell MF
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    Ditto Marydell.

    And for the person who said our only good horse is retired...what about:

    Paragon
    Pikko del Cerro (sp?)
    Woodstock
    Argh, name eludes me, but Shelly Francis's GP horse
    Legolas

    There are others. These are just the names that spring to mind without having to think hard.
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    jan ebling and gunter s both have new interesting horses too



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