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  1. #21
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    Yes, pine tar and/or venice turpentine are good for sore hooves and just about everything. Who knew pines trees were for more than toilet paper and printer paper!

    But be careful of straight "turpentine" as it stings. The venice turpentine does not sting like the full strength clear turpentine does. My personal experiences as a child when I stepped on rusty fencing or nails proved that. But the time we got to the doctor's office for a tetanus booster in our barefoot summers, all wounds were healed and all germs killed off by straight turpentine applied by our parents.

    So I use venice turpentine on my horses' hooves.
    OK so now we should chop up all those old broken halters and other leather broken tack that I for one never had repaired but did not throw away, and use that in the mix? And mix the ichthammol and other ingredients with it. And see how that does in hooves. I'm going to try it. Thanks to all for the advice. (BTW ichthammol is great for ant bites on humans and horses. Found that out by accident on myself.)



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    I would be very interested in a low cost hoof pack - like liniment for feets! My mare has been diagnosed with caudal heel pain - seems to be mainly soft tissue related probably due to her not being used to work at all when I got her - and while she is sound now I would like to be able to draw out any bruising/inflammation before it becomes a serous problem. At least occasionally packing her feet would make me feel better!

    Very interesting - peat moss might be pretty nice. It soaks up lots of moisture and would be pretty cost-efficient at a garden store. The moss might hold together better than sawdust and be easier to pack into the hoof. Arnica might also be a good addition. It is in some liniments and it's an old - but good - remedy for bumps and bruises.

    ETA: What proportions should everything be in?
    Like: 2 parts Pine Tar, 2 parts Venice Turpentine, 1 part Iodine, 1 part Ichthammol?



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    I am just enjoying my mental image of someone stuff an old leather halter in a blender....


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    Quote Originally Posted by purplnurpl View Post
    I had to put the ichthammol in the microwave though.
    Am I the only one imagining the smell permeating my kitchen for years?


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    Arnica
    I saw that some of the hoof packs had Arnica stuff. I looked it up and it didn't do anything exciting for me so I brushed it off. Now that it has been brought up on this thread maybe I'll take another look.

    Peat Moss

    The Peat Moss was an AWESOME idea. Though it's much more expensive than a bag of fine shavings.

    I put some of my drilling saw dust in one of those oscar kitchen aid things and it didn't cut it down further. I was really excited and then nothing happened. I did the same thing with pelleted shavings.
    Debbie Downer for sure on those. I stood there sad for a moment.

    Pine Tar
    I don't really understand Pine Tar. I think it smells like BBQ. And we Texans love BBQ. So it gets a good ol Aggie thumbs up from Purp-a-nurp.
    I didn't know Pine Trees made toilet paper! Regardless, they don't make my toilet paper. I only use butt wipes. I like the Loony Tune ones--100 wipes for only 0.99 at Albertsons!!

    The name.
    I had to change it. I decided that the Cushion came from ground up leather making a "cushion". My mix doesn't really have a cushion.
    So it has to be something like Boomin Hoof Pack.

    Later this week when I go to the feed store I'll get a bag of "fine" shavings. Maybe those will work wonders.

    The Ichthammol didn't stink up my kitchen. And I actually got it out of my house without ruining anything!! Which for me? I deserve a metal that says #1 Adult or Champion Grown- up or something.


    I exploded one of those Uckele Amp Fuel things in Emily's trailer's microwave a few years ago. And then I touched EVERYTHING in her living quarter. Nightmare is what that was. It was in my hair for a week.
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    Took over a year to finally get it all cleaned out of her trailer.

    I recently had a run in with liquid nail and carpet glue...
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    Quote Originally Posted by wildlifer View Post
    I am just enjoying my mental image of someone stuff an old leather halter in a blender....
    Hmm, it's not called a ninja juicer for nothing! And under warranty. Need to check if leather "juicing" nixes the warranty.


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    Bahahahaha -- hey, if it's got ninja in the name, not performing awesome tasks would just be false advertising!

    Purp, I loooove arnica for soreness, that's one of the main ingredients in Sore-No-More and I use it on my horse and myself. Lovely stuff.



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    According to its MSDS it is 20-30% turpentine and 40-60% rosin. I always thought rosin was what you put on the back of a circus pony before you stood on its back but it is apparently also a resin from trees, especially pine trees (aha - pine tar?).
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    Okay,
    I'm intrigued, I want to make some and I have plenty of empty supplement containers.

    Where does one get the ingredients from?
    (except pine tar, i actually have some of that, do you add pine tar? its been a couple days since i read this thread and its still been on my mind!)

    Would adding aloe(gel) be beneficial as well? Anything else?

    Does Arnica test for a drug?
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    Don't quote me but I don't think arnica is illegal for USEF -- we got drug tested and I use SoreNoMore all the time and had no issues.



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    One of my farriers told me that venice turpentine and pine tar are the same thing, as opposed to turpentine from HomeDepot which he said not to use. I heard the same thing at the shop at the track.

    When I glob the pinetar/venice turp on the soles of my mares' feet, I make sure there's shavings under her to pack in. My can is always runny but I've seen some cans of venice turp. that are firm, like when old honey chrystalizes. (I bet someone on this thread knows how to harden the can of venice turp/pine tar so it doesn't drip off my paint brush, on my shoes before I can brush my mare's soles. ...

    I hadn't thought of icthamole...or greengoo (salicilic acid-asprin + menthol green hoof packing).

    I'm with the OP- I just pack 'em cuz it makes me feel good. paprika and cayenne pepper have capsaicin, might add some to the pensionnaire's goo. very very clever OP



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    For the "packing" mix type homemade stuff (as opposed to a liquid form), what about using pelleted shavings, sprayed, fluffed and dried?

    Those pellets puff up like beet pulp so you get a lot out of a few shavings. they dry pretty quickly and are fine, like shavings would be if they chopped up in the blender!

    And maybe some tea tree oil in there for good measure? I don't need to worry about testing so I would try a few other things too. when and if I ever have time to actually try this of course.
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    So who has made their own and it come out how they wanted? And most importantly what quantities did you use?!



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    Instead of saw dust could you just use bran as the packing agent ?
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    I'm going to attemp to revive this in hopes someone can give me the mix amounts. Or do I just poor it all in and mix?
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    I visited my parents last weekend & happened across "The Little Black Book" - Dad's notes from his trainer days. The yellowed paper really adds to it's air of mystery.

    for sore feet - 1 part pine tar, 1 part lard. Boil. Paint on hot for 2 days, then cold for a week or two (can't remember). If you add in some tincture of Iodine, you have Reducine. I liked the empty 1 qt metal cans; you can set them directly on a stove or hot plate.

    I used to rub it in my mare's coronary band with a toothbrush a couple days a week to keep her feet growing, along with her one heel that was always short. It worked great.



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    Don't you have to put a wee tetch of ground unicorn horn in to make it work really well? Or is that just for the hoof packing virgins?


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