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View Poll Results: Have you taught a horse to do movie stunt type "tricks"

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  • yes, I have

    4 13.79%
  • yes, I have but only to stand for a vaulting mount

    5 17.24%
  • No, but I know someone who has/does

    8 27.59%
  • No, but I know at least one horse that is trained that way

    4 13.79%
  • No. I don't know a trainer or a horse trained that way

    6 20.69%
  • What?!! That's crazy

    6 20.69%
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  1. #1
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    Default Teaching a horse movie stunt type "tricks"

    Have you ever taught a horse, or know someone who has taught a horse, movie stunt type "tricks":

    Any of these:
    Rearing on command
    Failing on command
    Striking on command

    These too, but only if the horse is not used for vaulting
    Allowing someone to stand on their back
    Standing still while someone vaults onto them from the side or from behind
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    I know where this question came from.

    No to the first three.
    I could easily teach the pony to rear on command and strike on command, but I don't think those tricks have a place in the repertoire of a non-circus or movie horse. Since both are considered vices and potentially dangerous . . .

    Allowing someone to stand on their back, yes, on my mare as a teen, it made fruit thieving so much easier. Vaulting from the side, yes, it made bareback mounting quick and easy, also on my mare. From behind, no, back in the day there was no real point to it and I've seen it done not too long ago, I felt it was a chiro appointment in the making. I'm too old and fat now to do either without causing the pony discomfort.

    Some of the obstacles in arena trail classes require a great deal of trust in the rider and a great deal of training. For an example getting the horse to mount a small platform with all four feet. Backing through an L. Walking over a balance/teeter totter type structure. Side passing over a log, dragging tires. I collected the mail from a standard mail box on my mare most days I rode and brought it up the driveway.

    I have a friend who posts here who taught her Paso many in hand "tricks" including climbing on the stool with her forefeet, but I never saw any photos of rearing or striking.
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    I have taught and done all of those plus;

    - Pony Express mounts (horse runs FAST in a straight line while rider vaults back and forth over horse's back)
    - Rider on fire on horse (only rider on fire - not horse)
    - Horse runs, rider falls and horse jumps fence while rider gets pulled through fence
    - Assorted stirrup drags
    - Jump from height into water (with rider)
    - Grab overhead "branch" to get off horse #1 running at speed, then hang and drop onto horse #2 running at speed who is following horse #1 (confusing, I know...)

    And not stunt type stuff, but still fun;

    - Play dead (fake shoot the horse and he lies down "dead")
    - The Hokey Pokey (when he "shook it all about" his lips would flap)

    There's more, but those are off the top of my head.



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    I was talking with a local trainer in virginia and she had a horse brought to her that had been bought for a young rider. Horse was described as rearing so badly when the the child pulled on the reins that the horse would fall over.
    Trainer gets the horse and after seeing what the horse does, realizes it has trained as a stunt horse for the local civil war re-enactments.
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    Our riding school provided some horses for spaghetti westerns.
    Mostly they were used for riding, but at times a director got fancy and wanted some "at liberty" scenes with the horses running somewhere and rearing and pawing at the air, or running off and jumping a fence into or out of a pen, etc.

    One very sought after trick was to have someone shoot, bullets or arrows and "kill" the rider, cowboy or indian and them fall and the horse keep running, or "kill" the horse out from under the rider and the horse fall.
    We taught horses to fall when running and had a sand pit for them to fall and soft stirrups or took the one stirrup out on that side, most horses always falling to the right, the cameras on the left.

    Some times, we trained the horse for specific tricks, but mostly the movie company had their own wranglers that took our horses and taught them what they needed for each scene.

    It was funny years later to see that same horse being ridden in parts of the movie by the cowboy hero or friends, some scenes later by the indians chasing them.

    They paid very good for the use of the horses and took good care of them.



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    I haven't trained one personally; however my favorite Amish guy had his stud trained to rear, shake hands, count, take his hat off his head, move on command (forward, back, one side or the other), stand on box, bow, & laydown. He was also trained to breed a mare on command and back off, and then back into his stall when done. Some of this was verbal commands, but mostly he was whip broke. More than once, this horse made a fool of someone other the old man who tried to show him off. Flip a whip the wrong way, and the horse was on his hind legs.

    When he put the horse for sale, for a very reasonable sum, I passed. I would have had to send the old man to whatever trainer the horse went to, so he could "translate."



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    I have not trained any horses to be trick horses, (well, nodding, counting, bowing, but these things do not count)

    I did have the pleasure to watch the Devil's Horsemen train in England.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Stacie View Post
    Have you ever taught a horse, or know someone who has taught a horse, movie stunt type "tricks":

    Any of these:
    Rearing on command
    Failing on command
    Striking on command

    These too, but only if the horse is not used for vaulting
    Allowing someone to stand on their back
    Standing still while someone vaults onto them from the side or from behind
    You forgot to add the choice: "Why would I want to bother, since I am not IN the movie business?"


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    I clicked on the stand for vaulting choice... not because my horse is trained to do anything, but because he will stand for just about anything like a good boy.

    For your viewing pleasure, this is how Canadians mount a horse:

    http://file1.npage.de/001804/17/bilder/rh1.jpg
    http://file1.npage.de/001804/17/bilder/rh2.jpg
    http://file1.npage.de/001804/17/bilder/rh3.jpg
    http://file1.npage.de/001804/17/bilder/rh4.jpg
    http://file1.npage.de/001804/17/bilder/rh5.jpg
    http://file1.npage.de/001804/17/bilder/rh6.jpg
    http://file1.npage.de/001804/17/bilder/rh7.jpg

    He's also stood for mounting bareback by running up behind him, jumping, placing your hands on his butt, and landing on his back... It takes a lot to phaze this guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OveroHunter View Post
    I clicked on the stand for vaulting choice... not because my horse is trained to do anything, but because he will stand for just about anything like a good boy.

    For your viewing pleasure, this is how Canadians mount a horse:

    http://file1.npage.de/001804/17/bilder/rh1.jpg
    http://file1.npage.de/001804/17/bilder/rh2.jpg
    http://file1.npage.de/001804/17/bilder/rh3.jpg
    http://file1.npage.de/001804/17/bilder/rh4.jpg
    http://file1.npage.de/001804/17/bilder/rh5.jpg
    http://file1.npage.de/001804/17/bilder/rh6.jpg
    http://file1.npage.de/001804/17/bilder/rh7.jpg

    He's also stood for mounting bareback by running up behind him, jumping, placing your hands on his butt, and landing on his back... It takes a lot to phaze this guy.
    I did some vaulting and getting on and of and clear over is easy with the right horse, on the longe line.

    I have seen western trick riders do that backwards mounting in exhibitions, but never tried it.

    Very neat, thanks for the pictures.



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    Quote Originally Posted by MunchingonHay View Post
    I did have the pleasure to watch the Devil's Horsemen train in England.
    I would love to have more info on this! I've drooled over their website quite a few times. I swear, if I could go back to my early 20's, I would want to become a movie horse trainer/rider. I'm too old now. And fat.

    A friend of mine is still slim/fit enough to do the bareback swing-up mouting on her short Arabs. Then I tease her to do it on my 16.2+ thoroughbreds and she graciously declines. Ha!
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    Falling down in the movies is actually a lot better than back in the days of the trip wire or the running W, you give the cue and down they go, kind of a fast lay down on the off side. The only problem would be having to know the cues or you could get yourself into trouble.
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