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  1. #1
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    Default Speak to me of pricing medium ponies

    Assuming you have an A show quality medium pony...

    What are they bringing in lease fees and/or sales fees?

    I'm not giving specifics so that it isn't an ad

    If you could, please give me what you know of your area, types of ponies (e.g. green, made, etc.), and money ranges?

    I've found a good one and I'm trying to figure out whether it's worth it to keep it and campaign it vs. selling it more quickly, but I haven't been paying attention to the pony market.

    Thanks!!!



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    A REALLY good one or just a really good one? Because REALLY good is not that common and worth a LOT of money! Big difference. There are plenty of nice ponies around that do a nice job and the price ranges all over the place. Nice would start at 10,000/yr to lease and go up for fancyness( word?) and attitude from there



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    Well that's why I asked for the range... because if I give any more specifics it will sound like an ad, and I don't want the darned thread to be locked!

    Let's go for really good (instead of REALLY good). I know THOSE prices are ridiculous



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    Your best bet would be to check prices on pony sites ( Big Eq, FB's Just Ponies for Lease or Sale, You Tube ) and compare with what you have. Pony prices are all over the board now and there are too many unknown factors like commissions, etc. Do some on line research and good luck.



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    Contact known pony breeders. They have the best bet for the buck. A quality pony that is ready to go green that comes close to breaking the bank.........but doesn't.
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    A indoors quality pony that will WIN at AA Shows will be $100,000+ and $25,000 -$50,000 yearly for. A lease.

    I assume you are looking for something in on a more modest level, but since you haven't give us any specifications, I don't know. If you have any questions about the pony market I'd love to answer them. Check out BigEq.com for listings


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    It's really tough to come out ahead in the pony market right now. You can't get a good price unless they have a USEF show record, and that USEF show record could cost as much as your "profit" on sale.

    The USEF show record has to be with a kid. We've found the must successful progression to be 1-2 years of Childrens, Short Stirrup, whatever it can show in, before launching Green. Some will do 3 shows of Green, reinstate, finish the year in Childrens and re-launch Green the following season or the one thereafter. It's different than horses, 8-12 years is generally the peak on ponies, 6-10 for horses (in terms of sale value). That's several years to hang on and campaign your pony. Unfortunately you won't get a great price selling green either.

    If it's as nice as you say & eligible green then $15K-25k. For this price it also needs to be 13.1+, not in South Dakota, showable by a kid, have a readily apparent Medium Pony step, get a hack prize in decent company, swap it's leads pretty darn well, and be between 4-7 years of age. And pass the vet.

    Our top up & coming division ponies are 60-80K, and they have tremendous accolades and miles in the division. I believe in the prices of these particular ponies, but I have told many a pony seller that they're not pricing realistically. It's a flooded and not particularly buyer savvy market. The only profit right now, for most folks, is leasing, but it's got to be going for that to work.
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    I was looking at listings but that only gives you what they are asking, not what they are getting, and while the market has been fairly soft, I know those two aren't the same :-)

    Maybe it will help to explain a little bit about why I'm asking...so I found this pony who is really really amazing, "in the rough". Moves like the pony finals ponies, very cute jump, rough around the edges but bombproof personality, just doesn't know much yet. Broke, but not educated. As bombproof as a pony can be, though.

    The last pony I found like this my then coach took one look at him and said "my god, this is a $50k pony as is", so I'm fairly confident that my eye is good.

    I have a pony jock who needs the experience whom I could work out an arrangement with, and so I'm trying to weigh the investment as an eventual lease pony vs. a quicker sale. I really like this pony, like really really like her. I'd keep her myself if I weren't 5'9" (and too old to show a pony.) And, though my boys don't ride, I do have a niece...

    Obviously it is a gamble either way, so I'm just working through my options. The pony needed an upgrade anyway, so I already own her. If there are a glut of nice mediums out there, then perhaps I need to think differently. This pony could literally do anything :-) I might be biased ha!


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    Whoops! Posted before I saw your post, dags. That's *exactly* what I was looking for. I am trying to make a decision about her future direction because she really could go anywhere. I don't mind campaigning her, I don't need to board until she is ready to "get serious" etc. My original plan was to get her going and sell her quickly, but I like her too much for that. I don't say that too often - I was trained in the old school, if someone offers you money for a horse, take it.


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    Oh, and I'm in Zone 2.



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    Sounds like you like this pony, and Zone 2 is great to market in 3/4s of the year, and easy to get a USEF record in. Spend some cash to genuinely enjoy taking her to shows? Absolutely. It will only enhance her value. If she is truly a quiet, well-behaved, good looking-moving-jumping pony, then stick with the hunter market, it will pay for that kind of quality (eventually).
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