We have bred three Fuerstenball foal's.....well number three is due in a couple weeks. No problems with pasterns. Excellent legs, very nice gaits and great minds. Oldest in pictured above and is coming three. She has a Premium GOV Foal and Foal of Distinction.
Fuerstenball/Espri colt from 2012. Also a Premium Foal.
Have seen quite a few foals in Germany. Have not seen any with weak pasterns. But agree, that it is a valid concerm and I for sure would not breed Fuerstenball to a mare that had weak pasterns herself.
Last edited by Crosiadore; Apr. 7, 2013 at 09:28 AM.
I have only seen (in person) 2 Furstenballs, a yearling and weanling. They had superb long limbs of light-medium bone. The pasterns were correspondingly long and refined but not overly angled even when moving.
No problem! I would love to post more photos as they develop. We do have some fabulous foals this year.
I hope we are as fortunate with our breeding for 2014! If all goes as planned I should have foals from:
Christ x Quinoa (Quaterback)
Dante Weltino x Tirana (French Kiss)
Cunningham x Wynona (Cacique)
Cunningham x Xanadu (Araconit)
Calido I x Lalique (Campesino)
For Romance x Donnabelle (Donnerhall)
Wynton x Tettiana (Plaisir d'Amour)
Furstenball x Olivia (Don Kennedy)
Ampere x Preference (Jonggor's Weyden)
Totilas x Saraya (Sarkozy) (foal already sold, custom breeding)
My thread seems to have been kinda/sorta hijacked. I already knew there were a bunch of foals born in NA and took that to mean that his semen is not... ahem... a wad of microscopic spermatozoa swimming zombies.
Any posters here know any of these uber-super-duper-premium foals? Or other such Furstenball foals in Europe? He definitely seems to be producing many gorgeous offspring, but I'd still like to hear about their pasterns from those who've seen them in the flesh. I openly admit to not having a particularly educated eye in terms of conformation, much less from looking at pictures and videos, so I'd love to hear from others who have or have seen his offspring.
Hijacking was not the intent Catzndogz22.... I was merely trying to be inclusive so more could be added to what has already been said...so sorry if that offended in any way.
I think there is considerable praise for the stallion as well as the criticisms....so let's share our thoughts rather than claiming ownership. lol
I have seen a small handful of Furstenball offspring in the flesh from a range of Hanoverian mares. NONE have lax pasterns. All seem to be tall and elegant, have really lovely walks, and good natures. None are under saddle yet though.
There are some 3/4 year olds under saddle. And yes, some of them have the slightly lax pasterns. I have seen several offspring in the flesh and some have super legs, others are a bit more lax in the pasterns. Just something to take into consideration when breeding to him. Definitely a superb stallion however! Also, something to keep in mind is that lax pasterns can be springy . . certainly we don't want upright, short pasterns! So, it's just a balance
Here is Follow Me (champion Oldenburg stallion from last year) under saddle (and yes I think these pasterns are similar to Furstenball's - they are a bit lax, he is 4 years old and only doing a "big trot" - not collecting or taking lots of weight behind, yet the hind pasterns absorb a lot) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n3vy...dS7qvnBkG4pGaw
At the end of the day, you must pick those bloodlines you believe in and like to ride (-: Florestan/Donnerhall/Rubinstein/Gribaldi/Landadel and a couple others work for me....the rest .....well I may dabble outside those few for the right stallion but....have two professional riders I employ and they agree with theses standards so will stick with what I know.
Thought I'd share the under saddle video of this super boy from Furstenball. Finest (Furstenball x Wie Weltmeyer) barely 3 years old. And looks to me like a super young stallion. Also, correct in the pasterns from what I can tell. I love this boy! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgE6c...&feature=share