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    Default Would this be too weird? Fine art trade for a horse? (x-posted from breeding forum)

    So, in talking with my Dad about my horse shopping challenges, he suggested proposing a fine art trade for an event prospect. He is a premier bronze sculptor, specializing in equestrian art (he himself was a horse trainer for 20+ years before transitioning to a career as a full time artist). The equine section of his website is here:

    http://www.douwestudios.com/le_equine.html

    He has completed over 200 private and public commissions and has numerous awards, residencies and shows to his credit. Recent significant projects include a large piece for the William Shatner (also an avid equestrian) residence in L.A., the Las Vegas Veterans Memorial, the “Americas' Response” Special Operations Monument to be placed by Ground Zero in NYC, a 17 foot tall flock of birds for the Intertex corporation of Los Angeles, a life-size herd of wild horses for the city of Aurora, CO, a large outdoor musical piece for the performing arts center in Lebanon, KY, the new entryway monument for the Vance Brand Airport in Longmont, CO and three pieces for the royal residence in Dubai (also equestrian, I believe). He also had great success selling pieces at the World Equestrian Games in KY a few years back (where he currently resides). Within the last 18 months alone, he has installed five large outdoor pieces for cities across the country.

    He has had a lot of luck trading artwork for awesome things, ranging from high end antique motorcycles to exotic vacations. I, however, had never thought of trading art for a horse. Is there even a market for something like that? I mean, obviously there is, as he makes a very successful full-time career out of his artwork, largely equestrian (but also works with high end European designers making specialty furniture and does major installations at colleges, museums, etc.), but how would one even go about proposing something like that? Lol, weird but novel idea. My dad is nothing if not creative.



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    As long as you have someone who wants your Dad's work and you want their horse, you have the making of the beginning of a deal. Work on it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by whicker View Post
    As long as you have someone who wants your Dad's work and you want their horse, you have the making of the beginning of a deal. Work on it...
    Hahaha, that will be quite the trick. I think it might be too unusual a trade, but, hey, you never know.



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    Well, I've done it. You won't be the first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whicker View Post
    Well, I've done it. You won't be the first.
    Oooh, really? Do tell. What did you trade? Was it a success?



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    I don 't think it's weird. Plus the person getting the bronze horse will be saving on their feed bill
    A friend told me I was delusional. I almost fell off my unicorn.



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    Stunning!



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    Beautiful work - and he does such a range of disciplines so very well. Love the gaited horse and the jumper!



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    The worst someone can say is "no"! Certainly worth asking and investigating as an option



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    Oh I've seen his work, very cool!

    I've traded art for some great things, you never know, good luck!
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    Don't know if it would work, but I am very familiar with the Americas Response piece (and the back story). You won't know until you try.



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    I'll trade you Forgotten Cat for the racehorse on the roof!!!!!

    Incredible work and yes, if I had an appropriate horse, yes I'd trade.



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    yeah I would trade too if I had the right horse. You may have more luck with people with breeding operations or a number of horses.

    I do think part of your issue is your location in finding a horse. I just got a lovely 3 year old for free (unstarted--never raced and NOT a rescue. Just folks wanting to reduce their numbers and wanted the filly to get into good hands to become useful) and I have seen 3 other really nice prospects for under 3K. There are nice horses out there.

    Save some money so you have a reasonable budget and shop from (5-7 is a fabulous budget and you should be able to find some thing easily with in that budget including PPE and shipping). Maybe look where your dad is....there are lots of nice ones in that area!
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    There is a really neat device that's been invented to facilitate just such a trade as this. You assign a maximal value to the bronze by finding someone who really wants the bronze, but doesn't necessarily have an event prospect to suit you. They may have other stuff for trade, for example, accountancy services or plumbing. They give you a promisory note for the bronze, which you can then take with you to exchange with a completely different person who has an event prospect for sale.

    ie sell a bronze, buy a horse, stop advertising.


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    I think it would work and agree that going to a breeder might be your best option. When I was a kid I have a vague memory of a horse being traded for a motorcycle.



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    His work is lovely and he is generous to do that for you.

    I think that focusing only on sellers who would take a bronze sculpture in lieu of cash is going to really really limit your pool though. Why not just sell a sculpture (however one advertises/does that) and use the money on a horse?



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    Whatever works is what happens. Good luck! (I think you guys have a great idea)



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    Quote Originally Posted by bornfreenowexpensive View Post
    (5-7 is a fabulous budget and you should be able to find some thing easily with in that budget including PPE and shipping). Maybe look where your dad is....there are lots of nice ones in that area!
    Grrrr...the sad part is that I started my search with $4k. I, too, thought that was a reasonable budget. Now I'm starting back from the ground up after spending the majority of that on bad PPEs. I had no idea that horse shopping could be so frustrating or expensive. I guess I have just been lucky in the past. I want to shop "smarter," but not sure how. I've only vetted well-built horses that have been lightly raced (except the first one, but I was hoping he was a "war horse" type) and moved sound to the naked eye. Well, you live you learn, I guess!



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    Quote Originally Posted by blame_the_champagne View Post
    Grrrr...the sad part is that I started my search with $4k. I, too, thought that was a reasonable budget. Now I'm starting back from the ground up after spending the majority of that on bad PPEs. I had no idea that horse shopping could be so frustrating or expensive. I guess I have just been lucky in the past. I want to shop "smarter," but not sure how. I've only vetted well-built horses that have been lightly raced (except the first one, but I was hoping he was a "war horse" type) and moved sound to the naked eye. Well, you live you learn, I guess!

    I think the issue is that you were looking at Rescues and straight off the track (I think based on what you posted). I'd stick to buying from re-sellers who have put some time in and have more experience in shopping. They will weed them out for you but you will pay a bit more. I've gotten several in the 3500-5500 range and more than 90% passed the PPE plus I had the benefit of sitting on them and free jumping (and jumping them). They were not yet eventing but doing enough and had been let down from racing that I had a better idea of what I had but were still more affordable than a sport bred prospect.

    Good luck.
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