The Chronicle of the Horse
MagazineNewsHorse SportsHorse CareCOTH StoreVoicesThe Chronicle UntackedDirectoriesMarketplaceDates & Results
 
Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast
Results 21 to 40 of 43
  1. #21
    Join Date
    Aug. 14, 2004
    Posts
    7,538

    Default

    honestly after seeing some guys that were labeled a non grey color well into their teens when they started to grey - i think the only thing to say is "we shall see "

    remember that a grey horse is born as a non grey color - so chestnut, bay, black, etc. and only grey as a "after effect" so the fact he looks chestnut really doesn't mean much

    cute guy tho!

    anyone know what the naming protocol of 12Z and 13Z represents?

    12Z is a fantastic colt btw



  2. #22
    Join Date
    Dec. 13, 1999
    Location
    Greensboro, NC
    Posts
    35,752

    Default

    True, they are born a "regular" color, but in the vast, vast majority of situations, the foal coat color/tone/shade is very adult-like, as opposed to foal-like. In other words, bay foals are born with full black points, as opposed to mousy/fawn-y, blacks are born black as opposed to mousy/grayish, and chestnuts are born with chestnut lower legs as opposed to the very very pale, sometimes almost white, lower legs. The problem we're having here is we haven't seen a good, dried off picture of the whole body
    ______________________________
    The CoTH CYA - please consult w/your veterinarian under any and all circumstances. - ET



  3. #23
    Join Date
    Feb. 14, 2001
    Location
    Lexington, KY--GO BIG BLUE!!
    Posts
    3,247

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by mbm View Post
    anyone know what the naming protocol of 12Z and 13Z represents?

    12Z is a fantastic colt btw
    It's standard in the TB industry to call the foal "[Year of Birth] Dam name" until the horse is officially named. So until 2006, Zenyatta was known as "04 Vertigineux." The 12Z and 13Z is just shorthand for "2012 Zenyatta" and "2013 Zenyatta."
    “A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it.”
    ? Albert Einstein

    ~AJ~


    1 members found this post helpful.

  4. #24
    Join Date
    Nov. 15, 2006
    Location
    Lexington, Kentucky
    Posts
    3,292

    Default

    I vote grey by the looks of his muzzle and his ears. Of course I'm still hoping that my bay C.Quito yearling sheds out with a few grey hairs this year.... but it's a tiny, tiny hope.
    We're spending our money on horses and bourbon. The rest we're just wasting.
    www.dleestudio.com



  5. #25
    Join Date
    Nov. 29, 2002
    Location
    New Jersey
    Posts
    771

    Default

    My money (after having had numerous grey foals) is on chestnut. I've never seen a baby turn grey without at least a couple of white hairs around the eyes in the beginning.

    As for blacks (had several of those, too), they are commonly mousey grey to begin with and then get dark when they shed out their baby coats.

    This year's first baby for us (filly) has a ton of white hairs around her eyes, so no question about her.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Misty-baby-2013-5-days-7.jpg 
Views:	105 
Size:	12.6 KB 
ID:	37891  
    co-author of
    Duel for the Crown: Affirmed, Alydar, and Racing's Greatest Rivalry
    www.duelforthecrown.com



  6. #26
    Join Date
    Mar. 11, 2005
    Location
    CO
    Posts
    4,878

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Dawn J-L View Post

    Has anyone here ever seen a chestnut that grayed out that was born with orange-pink eye rims? Or a chestnut that stayed chestnut that was born with black rimmed eyes? I'd be interested to know because it has been 100% reliable in my experience.
    Yes. My mare did. (Anglo-Arab breeding)
    "IT'S NOT THE MOUNTAIN WE CONQUER, BUT OURSELVES." SIR EDMUND HILLARYMember of the "Someone Special To Me Serves In The Military" Clique



  7. #27
    Join Date
    Nov. 21, 2007
    Location
    Eastern PA
    Posts
    877

    Default

    I really don't have an opinion one way or another, but I've always thought it was interesting that Royal Diamond still didn't have any hint whatsoever of being a grey even at 3+ years old. Here's the proof:

    http://www.sporthorse-data.com/play....oyal%20Diamond
    www.sauconycreeksporthorses.com
    Dedicated to breeding Friesian Sporthorses
    with world class pedigrees and sport suitability



  8. #28
    Join Date
    Jun. 18, 2007
    Posts
    4,033

    Default

    New photo posted of the other side of the colt's head. He might have some eye liner on that side, and the muzzle looks more.

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater



  9. #29
    Join Date
    Nov. 21, 2007
    Location
    Eastern PA
    Posts
    877

    Default

    Lots more pics. Nothing giving any better hint at grey or not grey, but certainly heartwarming! Z seems to be a very attentive mom.

    http://www.zenyatta.com/news/photos-from-the-foaling
    www.sauconycreeksporthorses.com
    Dedicated to breeding Friesian Sporthorses
    with world class pedigrees and sport suitability



  10. #30
    Join Date
    Aug. 28, 2006
    Posts
    10,000

    Default

    Oh my gosh these pictures are so adorable!



  11. #31
    Join Date
    Apr. 6, 2005
    Location
    Frozen tundra
    Posts
    1,459

    Default

    I have to say the softness in Zenyatta's eyes is so lovely to see. She is clearly a happy momma! Baby is adorable.



  12. #32
    Join Date
    Dec. 20, 2009
    Posts
    3,251

    Default

    IMO the photo link in post 29 is the best of all! And Tiffani, I agree - this mare has the softest eye I think I've ever seen - in all her pictures. There are couple shots of 12Z that are close enough - he seems to have that as well.
    We don't get less brave; we get a bigger sense of self-preservation........



  13. #33
    Join Date
    Jan. 19, 2005
    Location
    PA
    Posts
    12,690

    Default

    I vote grey...he is just too chestnut for a new born chestnut to me. Most chestnuts that I've known didn't look like that until they shedded their foal coat.
    ** The difference between genius and stupidity is genius has its limits. -- Albert Einstein **


    1 members found this post helpful.

  14. #34
    Join Date
    Dec. 13, 1999
    Location
    Greensboro, NC
    Posts
    35,752

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by dressagetraks View Post
    New photo posted of the other side of the colt's head. He might have some eye liner on that side, and the muzzle looks more.

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater
    These legs make me highly suspicious of gray
    ______________________________
    The CoTH CYA - please consult w/your veterinarian under any and all circumstances. - ET



  15. #35
    Join Date
    Nov. 21, 2007
    Location
    Eastern PA
    Posts
    877

    Default

    More recent photos of 13Z.

    Any updated opinions, color gurus?

    http://www.zenyatta.com/news/new-photos-13z

    I'm betting on NOT grey.
    www.sauconycreeksporthorses.com
    Dedicated to breeding Friesian Sporthorses
    with world class pedigrees and sport suitability



  16. #36
    Join Date
    Mar. 8, 2004
    Location
    Baltimore, MD
    Posts
    19,822

    Default

    He doesn't show any signs of graying out to my eye but there is still tons of time. I had a horse who was a light bay shed out to be nearly jet black as a two year old.



  17. #37
    Join Date
    Dec. 13, 1999
    Location
    Greensboro, NC
    Posts
    35,752

    Default

    Lower legs look much too light for gray.
    ______________________________
    The CoTH CYA - please consult w/your veterinarian under any and all circumstances. - ET



  18. #38
    Join Date
    Feb. 15, 2007
    Location
    Midwest
    Posts
    714

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by mbm View Post
    anyone know what the naming protocol of 12Z and 13Z represents?

    12Z is a fantastic colt btw
    Looks like they have announced that 12Z's official name is Cozmic One. I love it!
    “Riding a horse is not a gentle hobby, to be picked up and laid down like a game of Solitaire. It is a grand passion.” ~Emerson



  19. #39
    Join Date
    Apr. 11, 2006
    Location
    Lodi Ohio
    Posts
    1,423

    Default

    I vote chestnut. I had a Tapit gelding out of a bay mare who was decidedly chestnut his 4-5 year with no signs of going gray even now that he's 6. Gosh he's a big boy!

    Nancy



  20. #40
    Join Date
    Aug. 9, 2002
    Location
    Fairfax, VA USA
    Posts
    5,666

    Default

    No dog in this fight, but Wow!, he is striking! And what an ass on that boy If he puts that engine to good use, he should be one fast dude.

    It will be exciting to watch him grow up, regardless of what color he winds up being
    "Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies."

    "It's supposed to be hard...the hard is what makes it great!" (Jimmy Dugan, "A League of Their Own")


    1 members found this post helpful.

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 31
    Last Post: Feb. 12, 2013, 12:25 PM
  2. Gray Tb, 16.1, 12, Triad NC
    By shea'smom in forum Giveaways
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: Apr. 2, 2011, 06:01 PM
  3. Color people, could a 3 year old go gray with no gray parents?
    By Perfect Pony in forum Sport Horse Breeding
    Replies: 32
    Last Post: Nov. 4, 2010, 06:25 AM
  4. 6 YR OLD 16.2 H GRAY TB G IN MD
    By epj711 in forum Giveaways
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: Jul. 6, 2010, 02:27 PM
  5. Does Gray + Gray always = Gray?
    By Lisa Cook in forum Sport Horse Breeding
    Replies: 28
    Last Post: Apr. 19, 2010, 11:42 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
randomness