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    Remember that T is supposed to be a rescuer, NOT a KB... So you could expect a bit more understanding and empathy from her... but from what I heard and read about her and her organization lately, for profit rescues are doing well in Canada too.... she MAKES a good deal of $$$ from her association with the kbs and many have become very suspicious and wary of her!



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    According to Fairfax and Bluey - I'm a card carrying member too.

    Quote Originally Posted by LauraKY View Post
    Hey Jenm, now you have a group too! That's you, me and Angela. Anyone else want to join the commie, socialist, vegan (did I leave anything out) RARAs?

    Comrade readers of the communist, vegan Toronto Star (the most widely read paper in Canada, by the way) unite!

    Comrade Laura



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    I wondered what happened to that one. It figures.

    Quote Originally Posted by ADM7040 View Post
    No, that thread was closed down because Bluey told a big old whopper and got called on it by everyone on that thread (except you and Alagirl) including some posters who originally joined the thread supporting slaughter as an option. Bluey kept insisting that she was right and then started complaining that people were calling her names and suddenly...thread locked.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JGHIRETIRE View Post
    According to Fairfax and Bluey - I'm a card carrying member too.
    Comrade JGHIRETIRE, we are so pleased to have you in our "group"!!
    Proud owner of a Slaughter-Bound TB from a feedlot, and her surprise baby...!
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    Beautifully said - beautifully.


    Quote Originally Posted by Louise View Post
    I'm going to quote this one more time, in the, vain I know, hope that Fairfax, Bluey and their ilk will actually read it. I am not anti-slaughter. I believe it has a place. I am anti-slaughter regarding the way it is conducted at this time. I believe in being humane, which, by the way, is not a bad word, and does not belong to HSUS exclusively.

    I believe in safety in the food chain, and I believe that sufficient precautions are not being adequately exercised in the processing of horses at this time. Make it humane, and safe for the human beings who will be consuming it and they can open all of the horsemeat burger joints they want, wherever they want. I won't eat there, but I won't begrudge others their opportunity.

    But, I know that's not good enough for some. So, jens, if you will have someone who isn't a rabid pro-slaughter fanatic, but isn't a rabid anti-slaughter fanatic either, I would be proud to call myself Comrade Louise.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ADM7040 View Post
    No, that thread was closed down because Bluey told a big old whopper and got called on it by everyone on that thread (except you and Alagirl) including some posters who originally joined the thread supporting slaughter as an option. Bluey kept insisting that she was right and then started complaining that people were calling her names and suddenly...thread locked.
    Now that is a, like you say, "a big old whopper".
    I am, as you say, "calling you" on that one.



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    There's more to the story - who is it that wants the property the stable sits on?? Real estate is the real reason they want the horses out. The rest is just a smoke screen.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alagirl View Post
    Yes, you are that clueless....

    The ASPCA is actively working against the use of horses in NYC.
    The delicate part:
    They were founded to oversee the well being of the working horse and are one of the four agencies in charge of overseeing compliance with the regulations.

    Oh, one of their top brass people gave NYCLASS nearly a half a million....

    And maybe they do pass some money along, but they are not a nationwide organization. I think Cowgirljenn mentioned they supported her efforts in te past. But no: the SPCA in your town is not affiliated with that club.


    And yeah, the humane laws....

    http://open.nysenate.gov/legislation/bill/S5013-2011

    those poor horses need rescuing, right....


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    Quote Originally Posted by JGHIRETIRE View Post
    There's more to the story - who is it that wants the property the stable sits on?? Real estate is the real reason they want the horses out. The rest is just a smoke screen.
    Yes, there is more to the situation that is obvious, but no, not really, it is not "a smoke screen", but animal rights extremists groups taking the ball and rolling with it, to get all that free publicity and following that brings in donations for the cause.



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    Repeatedly we have almost all said we do not support PETA or the the HSUS yet you do not get that part. We want it done correctly - nothing more and nothing less - yet it's you that always starts with calling everyone that doesn't agree with you a RARA.
    You have an extra set of hands - not only do they cover your ears - they cover your eyes as well and you are sitting there going "la la la la la la la la la la la la"so you can't see or hear what we are saying.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluey View Post
    Yes, that is what they tell me on PMs and guess who here are the ones name calling?
    Right.

    Let me try to explain this to you.
    Saying someone is following animal rights extremist drives to ban all animal uses, here horse slaughter as a handy place to do so, is not calling names.

    Saying that anyone not an anti, that doesn't think it is sensible to ban slaughter outright following animal rights extremist drives, is automatically an uncaring ogre and in some instances making them fear being followed into personal life to brand them as public enemy #1 for not being an anti, in my opinion, is name calling.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JGHIRETIRE View Post
    Repeatedly we have almost all said we do not support PETA or the the HSUS yet you do not get that part. We want it done correctly - nothing more and nothing less - yet it's you that always starts with calling everyone that doesn't agree with you a RARA.
    You have an extra set of hands - not only do they cover your ears - they cover your eyes as well and you are sitting there going "la la la la la la la la la la la la"so you can't see or hear what we are saying.
    Tell me where I have called anyone, any time, as you say, "a RARA".



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    Everytime we have this discussion - we have to be RARA or working directly for PETA or HSUS.


    Quote Originally Posted by Bluey View Post
    Tell me where I have called anyone, any time, as you say, "a RARA".


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    Quote Originally Posted by JGHIRETIRE View Post
    Everytime we have this discussion - we have to be RARA or working directly for PETA or HSUS.
    Again, show me where I have ever called anyone "a RARA".



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    When I was a kid over 35 years ago, we had an evil, dangerous horse who tried to kill me in stallion-like anger, and almost succeeded. I live in Eastern Canada. We are, and always were aware of slaughter horses going to Quebec from here, it is no big secret.

    My father called the local knacker (killbuyer) and made him SWEAR that horse would not get off that truck until he got to Quebec. It was not something Dad decided in anger- that pony was very, very dangerous, and we were good horsewomen at our relatively young ages. He couldn't be fixed.
    The knacker agreed, because the horse was so unpredictable in his dangerousness, and he didn't want the possible lawsuit that could happen if he took him off and sold him as a riding horse. Sad waste of a life, but he could have very easily killed me and anyone else dealing with him- an unpredicable animal is a dangerous animal. His life ended, sadly- but he didn't take any people with him in the process.
    I am anti-slaughter, although living in Ontario with a Quebecquois ex-husband who loved horsemeat (GROSS!), we were familiar with what happens to people's problem horses...


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    Quote Originally Posted by horsefeathers2 View Post
    When I was a kid over 35 years ago, we had an evil, dangerous horse who tried to kill me in stallion-like anger, and almost succeeded. I live in Eastern Canada. We are, and always were aware of slaughter horses going to Quebec from here, it is no big secret.

    My father called the local knacker (killbuyer) and made him SWEAR that horse would not get off that truck until he got to Quebec. It was not something Dad decided in anger- that pony was very, very dangerous, and we were good horsewomen at our relatively young ages. He couldn't be fixed.
    The knacker agreed, because the horse was so unpredictable in his dangerousness, and he didn't want the possible lawsuit that could happen if he took him off and sold him as a riding horse. Sad waste of a life, but he could have very easily killed me and anyone else dealing with him- an unpredicable animal is a dangerous animal. His life ended, sadly- but he didn't take any people with him in the process.
    I am anti-slaughter, although living in Ontario with a Quebecquois ex-husband who loved horsemeat (GROSS!), we were familiar with what happens to people's problem horses...
    Why didn't your dad just have him put down, either by bullet or vet?


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    Okay, I swore I would not take the bait again. But here goes, once and for all, there are 3 people and a few others on these threads that claim they are pro slaughter, I have no doubt. And the rest other than maybe a few are not ANTI slaughter, but want to see it done with out abuse. None of us are stupid, we can see that the "Three" are repeatedly ignoring common sense posts and screaming Your an animal rights extremist, when they are asked questions. They are doing nothing for their cause.
    They scream name calling but from what I have read the only name calling is done by the three. I can guarantee you that none of us are PETA members or any such radical terrorist organization. Can you please think before you type these accusations. You have had one thread closed, as adm explained, What exactly is your goal in all this? And please do not say I am the name caller, I have neither the time or inclination to go through all this thread and quote all the unkind things you have said.
    And for the record, I am against calling myself Comrade, it is a communist radical term and I am a radical conservative, so even if you folks have it as tongue in cheek, you are shooting yourself in the foot by calling yourself RaRa's.
    Just wanted to add that. Remember you do not like them calling you that since you are not, so why put it in your sig line even if it is a joke?
    Thank you adm for your very sensible posts!
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    D_Baldstalkings, Sorry, I guess you didn't read the first line of the post in question. It was a quote from a FB page, I wasn't there.
    "My doctrine is this, that if we see cruelty or wrong that we have the power to stop, and do nothing, we make ourselves sharers in the guilt.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluey View Post
    Tell me where I have called anyone, any time, as you say, "a RARA".
    What in the world......? That is unbelievable. Holy Moly.....

    I guess we now have to define what calling someone a RARA means


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluey View Post
    Now that is a, like you say, "a big old whopper".
    I am, as you say, "calling you" on that one.
    Bluey, pretty much the same people are on this thread as were on the thread where you were called out. The only ones likely to take your side on this issue are Fairfax and Alagirl, the rest of us saw it play out the same and called you out on that one specific issue on the other thread.

    You do not evolve on these threads. No one calls you names. You repeatedly state that anyone who does not believe exactly as you do is being fooled and is repeating animal rights extremist propaganda. Then you repeat your positions' propaganda over and over. You do not ever have anything new to say no matter what questions are brought up. You simply ignore the question at hand then repeat your propaganda. Others evolve, you do not. While I applaud your dedication to your mission, you just do not grow as the discussion evolves.
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    I want my horses (and others) to have a good life and a humane death. Humane slaughter doesn't exist so until it does, I'll be anti -slaughter. I believe the supply of horses will go down in the future as people are not breeding as much. As for the people who want to make a quick buck on a horse who no longer serves their needs, I refuse to consider that a valid reason for slaughter. If they want to humanely dispose of their horse, different story. And yes I do volunteer for a local pet rescue who pulls from kill shelters.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ADM7040 View Post
    Bluey, pretty much the same people are on this thread as were on the thread where you were called out. The only ones likely to take your side on this issue are Fairfax and Alagirl, the rest of us saw it play out the same and called you out on that one specific issue on the other thread.

    You do not evolve on these threads. No one calls you names. You repeatedly state that anyone who does not believe exactly as you do is being fooled and is repeating animal rights extremist propaganda. Then you repeat your positions' propaganda over and over. You do not ever have anything new to say no matter what questions are brought up. You simply ignore the question at hand then repeat your propaganda. Others evolve, you do not. While I applaud your dedication to your mission, you just do not grow as the discussion evolves.
    Thank you for your kind words.



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