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    Default And another one falls through the cracks! :(

    Excellent article this morning in the Toronto Star
    http://www.thestar.com/news/investig...ood_chain.html

    This is so sad in so many levels but it does prove that the system is totally unreliable.
    The St Jacobs auction is basically 5 minutes from my home. I have been there and sometimes good things happen, but it is such a sad place.


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    What disturbs me the most about this particular horse is that someone tried to buy him from the kill buyer and he refused...he was only to be sold for meat. Why? What a waste.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LauraKY View Post
    What disturbs me the most about this particular horse is that someone tried to buy him from the kill buyer and he refused...he was only to be sold for meat. Why? What a waste.
    That baffles me as well. I think there is some bias possibly operating here against perceived animal rights buyers, bias and protection of customary practices. Otherwise as a business person if he was offered $350 he was foolish not to take it.
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    I'd think either the horse was already dead or they knew (as per the article) that the papers were falsified and that they'd get prosecuted for that.
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    There are other dealers at the auction who WILL sell for a little profit. Geoff Groff is usually very good at letting individuals bid (he has been known to get the auctioneer's attention to an individual), but that Lalonde guy obviously won't. Priest is a liar. How can he say one day he "had a home" and the next day, "meat only". BS. The last owners can cry all they want, I blame them for not calling the farm back and/or Adena.
    Actually, one mare last week did get saved although she was "meat only" because "something" was not filled out properly on the paperwork... really? someone paid attention or someone did not lie convincingly enough.
    The error in that article is that slaughter was not banned in the US. I emailed the writer and explained the difference between funding for inspectors and banning slaughter.
    I do really appreciate the effort put into this article and all the previous articles published the decision by the government to stop "sharing" revenues (from slots) with the racetracks. Very good research every time!


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    So sad, and proof of the lies and deception in the slaughter industry.

    The Star traces a former Stronach racehorse’s life from birth to the slaughterhouse and makes an unsettling discovery: serious flaws in Canada’s food inspection system are putting our health at risk when it comes to horses destined for the food chain.

    Very interesting considering how great Fairfax is always saying how great the Canadian system is.
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    Animal rights zealots such as Jenn and her little group are quick to point out when there is a problem and give a sweeping condemnation of the entire industry. One of their group..Laura K who posted an article forgot to read it where it states the Canadian system has an excellent reputation in Europe due to its Animal Welfare initiatives.

    The Toronto Star...ah..yes...out little Comrade Paper here in Canada. They have supported HSUS in all of their reporting and even went so far to REFUSE to report any information regarding the falsification of records by the Canadian Humane Society that was operating illegally byi an American resident living in Maryland.

    Their reporter said..well..its not as if he did anything really wrong....we...like...ya...he falsified charity papers and was living in Canada (Maryland was his real home) illegally.

    I wouldn't believe anything that Belinda Stronach or any off her reps would say.

    The two drugs listed have NOT been proven to incite bone marrow NOR cancer...There is NO proof...the tests done on rats were inconclusive and the Star is very well aware of that.

    When a horse is listed as TB the meat is tested. Period. if it has been slaughtered for HUMAN consumpsion.

    The star is just recycling old old news.

    Stronach family. Oh yeah...Belinda joined a political party and when she was NOT GUARANTEED to become Prime Minister after spending a bunch of money...she jumped off the train leaving a major wreck

    Her proper Dad..off shore willie... oh yeah...Mr Tax evader on a corporate scale...Only reason he set up the TB initiative was for a TAX deduction for his farm. Alturism is dead with this family.

    Anyway..Anti slaughter will continue to snipe but can NEVER explain if it is so BAD BAD BAD...why Europe hasn't stopped stopped stopped importing.

    Around four restaurants in Toronto serve horse meat. NONE of them have discontinued.

    Montreal due to French population has around 20 restaurants in the city and also Quebec City serving. None of them have quit


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    Mindy Lovell(mentioned in the article) is from my area, and has done a huge amount of work trying to pull TB's from the pipeline. I followed the story right from the beginning, from Mindy posting right after she left the Olex auction, and her attempts to buy the horse featured in the article. This horse was wanted, very much so!
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    Fairfax I have no idea who you are, and I usually avoid threads related to slaughter but your rambling post isn't doing you any favours...what does Belinda Stronach's political aspirations have to to with this story? ....and calling the Toronto Star a communist paper, absolutely ridiculous. You've totally lost all credibility in my book.


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    If that is the case..then it is a shame.

    But it is not against the law.

    If Stronach TRULY wanted to protect all he has bred...he wouldn't sell any...especially his low dollar winning horses.

    Wonder why the writer REFUSED to interview the "accused to be a satan worshipper" Kill buyer .... Every story has two sides

    But NOT with the Toront Vegan Star



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    My spidey sense tells me this thread is about to become a trainwreck...


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    nah.... I know that is what the "other side" hopes for so they can cry abuse to the moderator and have yet another thread shut down...but that is to be expected. They want to BAN everything THEY don't approve of.



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    Quote Originally Posted by MyssMyst View Post
    My spidey sense tells me this thread is about to become a trainwreck...
    Do ya think?
    "Those who know the least often know it the loudest."


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    Quote Originally Posted by FalseImpression View Post
    The last owners can cry all they want, I blame them for not calling the farm back and/or Adena.
    You know....the whole article is sad and something to think about, biased spin or not, but that's what I walked away with:

    Thinking what scum bags his final owners were. You don't sell a horse for $100 to a KNOWN DEALER under the assumption that he is "going to a good home with rolling green pastures." They knew exactly what they were doing....shipping him off somewhere, out of sight, out of mind.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fairfax View Post
    If Stronach TRULY wanted to protect all he has bred...he wouldn't sell any...especially his low dollar winning horses.
    We all know that the only way to ensure they won't end up in a potentially bad situation is to not sell them. The racehorses and the backyard ones too. But is that really going to happen? Are you saying that anyone who sells/gives away a horse, doesn't have any interest in where they end up (ie. doesn't want to protect what they have bred/raised/trained/whatever? Or is it just that Stronach has the money to take care of them all, and didn't, therefore doesn't care where they end up?

    Not agreeing or disagreeing, just feeling a little bit like this is more of an anti-Stronach issue than a horse issue. Not that I care about the family one way or another, but just throwing it out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fairfax View Post
    nah.... I know that is what the "other side" hopes for so they can cry abuse to the moderator and have yet another thread shut down...but that is to be expected. They want to BAN everything THEY don't approve of.
    No, that thread was closed down because Bluey told a big old whopper and got called on it by everyone on that thread (except you and Alagirl) including some posters who originally joined the thread supporting slaughter as an option. Bluey kept insisting that she was right and then started complaining that people were calling her names and suddenly...thread locked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FalseImpression View Post
    The last owners can cry all they want, I blame them for not calling the farm back and/or Adena.
    Good point.
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    Stronach hater or not, the horse ended up in the wrong hands, a woman tried to buy him from the kill buyer,and was refused. MIndy then got said horses health records, listing the myriad drugs he was given in the previous few months, and called the SH where he was sent. She tried to stop his slaughter, sadly, they went ahead anyway, no regard given to proof that drugs were still in his system. This is how our SH's operate here in Canada.
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    Quote Originally Posted by up-at-5 View Post
    Stronach hater or not, the horse ended up in the wrong hands, a woman tried to buy him from the kill buyer,and was refused. MIndy then got said horses health records, listing the myriad drugs he was given in the previous few months, and called the SH where he was sent. She tried to stop his slaughter, sadly, they went ahead anyway, no regard given to proof that drugs were still in his system. This is how our SH's operate here in Canada.
    Sums it up well unfortunately. And that's only one of many.
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    Hey Jenm, now you have a group too! That's you, me and Angela. Anyone else want to join the commie, socialist, vegan (did I leave anything out) RARAs?

    Comrade readers of the communist, vegan Toronto Star (the most widely read paper in Canada, by the way) unite!

    Comrade Laura
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