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    Default HSUS Animal Care Expo

    Thought a couple of the AR folks on this board might want to register early. It will save you money if you reserve by April 1. Maybe Laura or Angela would like to go and possibly even give us live twitter coverage and updates on this board?


    The HSUS Animal care expo will be held in Nashville this year. After a couple years of avoiding any training about horse rescue, it looks like they're trying to resuscitate it with following seminar:

    Equine Rescue: From Poll to Dock
    Saving horses from situations of neglect is a labor of love. Recent wildfires, drought, and the economy have put more and more horses in need of lifesaving intervention. Join us to learn the process of investigating suspected criminal neglect, establishing a temporary shelter, engaging important partners with financial and expert assistance, and providing hands-on experience for field response.
    Presenters: Erin Ochoa, Assistant Executive Director, Days End Farm Horse Rescue; Adam Parascandola, Director of Animal Cruelty Response, Animal Cruelty, Rescue and Response Team, The HSUS; Eric Thompson, Director of Emergency Operations, Code 3 Associates; Sára Varsa, Director of Operations, Animal Cruelty, Rescue and Response Team, The HSUS

    http://www.animalsheltering.org/trainin ... esday.html

    Just had to add this other course they are presenting. Aren't they in hot water over a past circus investigation? Like being charged with RICO violations over their last investigation of Ringling Bros.

    Friday, May 10

    4:00 PM - 5:30 PM: Workshops

    Animal Rescue Track: Lions and Tigers and Bears—Oh My! The Art of Circus Inspections
    Traveling circuses present specific challenges for enforcement officers. Conducting inspections proactively or in response to complaints is not standard training received by agencies. Learn the basics of how to conduct a circus inspection to protect the safety of both the animals and the people engaging in or attending these performances.
    Presenter: Cindy Machado, Director of Animal Services, Marin Humane Society



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    I'm planning to attend. I'll dress in my best rara finery and take secret video of everyone and what they say in all of their little presentations! Ill go home with a pocketful of seminar diplomas and an even deeper understanding of what motivates these ne'er do wells. Oh wait, I'd have to make time to visit the Opry, and see as many of the country music stars as I could!



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    Fill yer boots.
    "My doctrine is this, that if we see cruelty or wrong that we have the power to stop, and do nothing, we make ourselves sharers in the guilt.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by up-at-5 View Post
    Fill yer boots.
    sure thing, what's in yours?
    Quote Originally Posted by Mozart View Post
    Personally, I think the moderate use of shock collars in training humans should be allowed.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Alagirl View Post
    sure thing, what's in yours?
    What??? Fill yer boots means have at it, go for it.
    "My doctrine is this, that if we see cruelty or wrong that we have the power to stop, and do nothing, we make ourselves sharers in the guilt.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by up-at-5 View Post
    What??? Fill yer boots means have at it, go for it.
    http://grizzlygrowler.com/wp-content.../das-boot1.jpg

    yep.



    Back on topic though....I'd be interested to hear what they have to say.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mozart View Post
    Personally, I think the moderate use of shock collars in training humans should be allowed.


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    OP, my guess is that you are getting much of your information from some website that is a bit extreme in the way it goes about denouncing who the HSUS and other such animal rights groups are.
    May ought to learn to filter that "extreme" out, as it is not good for the rational side to act irrationally at times.
    Let animal rights extremists be the irrational ones, they have that well rehearsed and it is expected of them.

    For the rest of us, we are defending what animals are for humans, one more renewable, natural resource we have evolved with in this little blue marble and yes, the sensible part of that is that we can and should have the right to use them.

    Now, that doesn't mean abuse is ok, that is what animal rights extremists use to say "see abuse happens, lets ban all use!"

    No, sensible humans understand we can use animals and care for them without abuses, called animal welfare, a very different way of approaching what we do than animal rights extremists do, wanting to ban all uses, eventually, from making everyone become vegan to not having any at all right to use any animal for anything, considering any use "enslaving" animals.

    Those ignore that in this world, everything has some use for others, it is the way this world is, foolish to deny that.

    My point, please tone down the rhetoric, just the facts, please, there are plenty of those out there.

    As for that expo, enjoy yourself, but don't get kicked out.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 7arabians View Post
    I'm planning to attend. I'll dress in my best rara finery and take secret video of everyone and what they say in all of their little presentations! Ill go home with a pocketful of seminar diplomas and an even deeper understanding of what motivates these ne'er do wells. Oh wait, I'd have to make time to visit the Opry, and see as many of the country music stars as I could!
    What do you want to bet that private recording of the proceedings is prohibited?

    I'm waiting for somebody to "out" a meeting of HSUS heavies. Then we'll see just how much they are concerned about secret recordings.

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    Leo,

    HSUS has been approved by the EPA to test and use PZP on horses. PZP is designed to make mares infertile for up to two years. PZP comes from the membrane which surrounds the egg in female pigs. When PZP is injected into a horse's system it causes the mare to produce antibodies to fight off the PZP, [B]but at the same time it damages the mare's own membranes [/B
    The quote below shows that HSUS is also exploring the use of PZP on companion animals.

    The HSUS is working to develop the porcine zona pellucida (PZP) immunocontraceptive vaccine into a safe, effective, and practical tool for the humane control of wildlife populations. To make this goal a reality, HSUS is working on improving field techniques, demonstrating the effectiveness of immunocontraception in the field, refining the vaccine manufacturing process, and developing training standards.

    As part of this effort, The HSUS obtained, U.S. Environmental Protection Agency registration under the name “ZonaStat-H” for use of PZP on wild horses and burros in January 2012, and will be working to extend the registration to include deer and other animals. HSUS is also exploring the potential for the use of immunocontraceptives on companion animals.


    It all sounds..well..maybe okay..oh .. wait..they are trying to have ALL horses declared as COMPANION animals. That would mean that when they seize horses..if they are called companion...they could immediately start to inject them. Gosh..I think I know of a case where they did that..chemical castration ... for stallions.

    Oh..ya gotta have friendssssss...and I do...I think they may actually go under cover and tape the whole procedure...I think turnabout is fair play



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    Quote Originally Posted by 7arabians View Post
    Thought a couple of the AR folks on this board might want to register early. It will save you money if you reserve by April 1. Maybe Laura or Angela would like to go and possibly even give us live twitter coverage and updates on this board?
    What are you, like 13 years old?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guilherme View Post
    What do you want to bet that private recording of the proceedings is prohibited?

    I'm waiting for somebody to "out" a meeting of HSUS heavies. Then we'll see just how much they are concerned about secret recordings.

    G.
    We know exactly how they handle it. A breeder from New Hampshire attended a HSUS sponsored seminar for AC and Police officers.

    He wrote about it and how they encouraged lawmakers to LIE

    It was printed in Modern Arabian

    FOUR weeks later..the sheriff arrived at his farm with an AC stating a complaint about no water available ??? no one had visited and no one could see the paddocks from the road.

    AC admitted she was GIVEN the article

    Complaint was signed by a lawyer for HSUS and one of their affiliates..she has refused to state who signed the complaint citing client / lawyer confidence.

    AC did lie in her report regarding vets and farriers and claimed she spoke with them to confirm her "suspicions". Turns out she never called either one of them.

    This man has had a long struggle to get more information and now he is marked...they can trump up other charges and then say...we know this farm..we have been there before.

    This is ALL done to intimidate so no one challenges HSUS and their affiliates



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    Quote Originally Posted by jenm View Post
    What are you, like 13 years old?
    Read my post just after this. It explains WHY these seminars need to be taped. If they are encouraging others to break the law..they need to be charged.

    HSUS usually say they are the LAW MAKERS when it comes to livestock.

    Not even close and that is why we challenge them..and catch them in their lies.

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    Three or four years ago, the HSUS had one of those seminars in the West coast and someone attending there reported that the president of the HSUS, in his talk, said that it would not hurt his feelings any if bullets would fly, when talking about disrupting any we do with animals.

    He is not someone I would be defending or following:

    http://www.nathanwinograd.com/?p=6510



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    The HSUS Animal care expo will be held in Nashville this year. After a couple years of avoiding any training about horse rescue, it looks like they're trying to resuscitate it with following seminar:

    Equine Rescue: From Poll to Dock
    Saving horses from situations of neglect is a labor of love. Recent wildfires, drought, and the economy have put more and more horses in need of lifesaving intervention. Join us to learn the process of investigating suspected criminal neglect, establishing a temporary shelter, engaging important partners with financial and expert assistance, and providing hands-on experience for field response.
    Presenters: Erin Ochoa, Assistant Executive Director, Days End Farm Horse Rescue; Adam Parascandola, Director of Animal Cruelty Response, Animal Cruelty, Rescue and Response Team, The HSUS; Eric Thompson, Director of Emergency Operations, Code 3 Associates; Sára Varsa, Director of Operations, Animal Cruelty, Rescue and Response Team, The HSUS


    Just had to bold the above, because criminal neglect has what to do with wildfires, drought and a bad economy?

    Rather fun to only get involved in rescue or assisting animals if there is criminal basis, eh?

    Wait, without crime there would only be direct aid to the animals and people in need,and those actively helping them through providing feed, shelter, vet care, wouldn't there? Maybe even empathy for the owners in dire straits as a result of acts of Providence.

    Nah, that is not the reality of modern "sue 'em" society that pays the lawyers.

    HSUS has been little more than a 'new boys legal club' out for the media spin that delivers cash for some time.


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    Oh, lord and here they go again. The pro-slaughter crowd had their thread locked so now they have to have another place to call everyone that disagrees with them "animal rights activists" aka RARAs.....


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    ??? Whatever are you talking about, SV? Could you please quit using the term 'pro-slaughter crowd' and just use the term 'normal people'? Thanks! Oh, and happy Good Friday to you.



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    Quote Originally Posted by 7arabians View Post
    ??? Whatever are you talking about, SV? Could you please quit using the term 'pro-slaughter crowd' and just use the term 'normal people'? Thanks! Oh, and happy Good Friday to you.
    Many against "ban drives", as the animal rights extremist drives to ban slaughter, are not necessarily quite "pro slaughter" as antis try to make it sound.
    Just as those against banning abortions are not necessarily going to push that all get abortions.

    There is a place for everything, slaughter and abortion and so much else we do that someone may not like.
    That is why following animal rights extremist propaganda to ban this now, horse slaughter, that later, that will be what you do with your animals, is really not something those that keep their eye in the big picture will think is sensible.

    We already have good laws to ban what we need to ban.
    Lets keep that with a purpose that we already have regulations for it.



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