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    Unhappy Cattle drug found in molasses-based (Purina) feeds...

    Not that I needed a reason to keep me from feeling Purina Feed (the dead crow and bones, I used to find in their feed, as well as junk ingredients did it for me years ago) But still.....

    http://horsetalk.co.nz/2013/03/24/ca.../#.UU-nZRzqljg



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    So much for their contention that there's a complete separation between their equine and cattle feeds...
    "It's like a Russian nesting doll of train wrecks."--CaitlinandTheBay

    ...just settin' on the Group W bench.


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    The "separation" is reliant on the good practices of the particular mill. Mixing equipment is cleaned between feeds, but I think there is still usually some contamination between runs (or with whatever is used to clean the mixers, like whole corn. I have bought TC Senior that was full of corn). Most tags seem to claim that the feed is not produced on equipment that handles ionophore-treated feed, which is the most common detrimental contaminant.
    *CrowneDragon*
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    Wow. Glad I don't feed Purina! Never have, never will.



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    Yikes!



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    I was told years ago by Purina that there was only *one* mill in theUS where they milled both cattle and horse feed, and that facility did *not* share machinery, in fact there wasafirewall between the 2 divisions. Guess things have changed
    "It's like a Russian nesting doll of train wrecks."--CaitlinandTheBay

    ...just settin' on the Group W bench.



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    I've heard the same thing that Ghazzu said above about separation of facilities. Will be interested to hear the story on this one.
    "One person's cowboy is another person's blooming idiot" -- katarine

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    Am I the only one that doesn't like the idea of that crap being in cattle feed either?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Laurierace View Post
    Am I the only one that doesn't like the idea of that crap being in cattle feed either?
    Isn't interesting how people hyperventilate about drugs in horsemeat, yet quite happily cowmeat, pigmeat, and chickenmeat that are routinely laced with several types of drugs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotenStar View Post
    Isn't interesting how people hyperventilate about drugs in horsemeat, yet quite happily cowmeat, pigmeat, and chickenmeat that are routinely laced with several types of drugs?
    Drug residues in food animals are highly researched and regulated. Since horses are not considered 'food animals' in the US, these regulations do not apply to horses. On most equine drug labels, it will say 'not for use in animals intended for food'.


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    It's a mistake and I would guess the feeds in question will be recalled and substitutes provided.

    Not too many years a go a "mom and pop" feed mill in NC didn't clear their equipment properly and killed a bunch of TBs with urea-laced horse feeds.

    In a modern industrial world this will happen. The only way to prevent it for any given horse owner is for them to grow and mix their own feeds. Not a practical solution for most folks.

    What, if any, negative health consequences flow from the use of this substance in horses? Or cattle? I'm looking for documented consequences, not screaming diatribes about how "WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!" because of "chemicals in our food."

    Remember that 300 million of us (and several billion animals) survive on foods produced by 210,000 full time farmers (and somewhat fewer animal and human food producers).

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    This is kind of funny to me; a whole lot of people here buy Country Acre COB to feed to the deer and turkeys that are right around town... good investment, seeing that it's now turkey season and maybe by fall that zilpaterol will really be kicking in! LOL


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