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    Default 1964 - Rebellion at Devon! Interesting and sort of funny

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vau...25/1/index.htm

    Fistfights, cold war fears, and Kathy Kusner in cowboy attire. I wonder if any CoTH folks remember this epic uprising?


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    The more things change....


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    Great article ....



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    What amazes me the most is that SPORTS ILLUSTRATED used to write articles about horse shows!!!!! Can you imagine that being the case today?

    I did thoroughly enjoy the article. Would love to read the follow up and find out what happened to the protestors.
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    Wow, that was a fun read!!
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    What a great read! I just wish there had been photos



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    Interesting.

    And interesting to see that response to unhappiness with the AHSA versus the stuff happening now, complete with the USEF's offered "Town Meetings." We are tame and comparatively Big Business. Anyone know of modern boycotts of any sort in the horse show world?
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    Quote Originally Posted by inca View Post
    What amazes me the most is that SPORTS ILLUSTRATED used to write articles about horse shows!!!!! Can you imagine that being the case today?
    Female riders would have to ride in swimsuit!!!


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    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vau...7355/index.htm

    Read this fun account, which featured a stabbing at Devon and some famous names taking the championships
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    I wish people had this much initiative and compassion for the rights of their fellow competitors nowadays... I'd still show.

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    Other than O'Meara, everyone of the other people mentioned actually broke the rules and should have been eliminated. (O'Meara DID plead guilty to animal cruelty, at which point the rules are that he can not show). Kathy Kusner may have had a ligitamate gripe since she was held up by the gateman.. and allowing the show's president to show with the wrong number was a big mistake on the management's part (although I don't know what the rule is about numbers in driving as opposed to the rule in jumpers)... so basically it sounds like the BNRs were all peeved that the rules were applied to them and made a fuss...

    I do love the lady in the crowd who was concerned what the Russian papers would write... that was funny.


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    How interesting!



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    That was cool to read...and very interesting! Thanks for sharing!
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    I sort of vaguely remember this although I was too young to really understand it. Wasn't this the episode that led to the formation of the PHA (Professional Horsemen's Assn.)? (Which had a LOT more guts and power then than it does now...)

    I also think it's sad that direct action, which was SUCH a given in those days, has fallen by the wayside to the extent that people nowadays find it "weird". This is why you're being gamed.

    And yeah, the lady talking paranoid BS about the Russkies would be today's tea-partier, indeed!
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    Quote Originally Posted by War Admiral View Post
    I also think it's sad that direct action, which was SUCH a given in those days, has fallen by the wayside to the extent that people nowadays find it "weird". This is why you're being gamed.
    But the "direct action" was (I guess?)being taken against the association that was simply enforcing its own rules. The whole thing read like a big bunch of spoiled brats acting like rogue cowboys. Even Kathy Kusner, who was held up by the gate person, seems (as I read it) to have been wearing the wrong number (she was wearing two numbers and it took her too long to rearrange them - her fault). What did any of the riders who intentionally broke the rules in protest get out of it? What exactly were they protesting? What did anyone get out of that display? It is my understanding that you still get booted from a class for going off course, going over the time allowed before crossing the starting line, or wearing the wrong number. As you should.

    I found the comment in the second article about the years of complaints about the "same old Devon courses", and the ensuing complaints about the changes made that year, to be particularly funny.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ynl063w View Post
    But the "direct action" was (I guess?)being taken against the association that was simply enforcing its own rules. The whole thing read like a big bunch of spoiled brats acting like rogue cowboys. Even Kathy Kusner, who was held up by the gate person, seems (as I read it) to have been wearing the wrong number (she was wearing two numbers and it took her too long to rearrange them - her fault). What did any of the riders who intentionally broke the rules in protest get out of it? What exactly were they protesting? What did anyone get out of that display? It is my understanding that you still get booted from a class for going off course, going over the time allowed before crossing the starting line, or wearing the wrong number. As you should.
    That's not in dispute. However, the rules were selectively applied, just as they are right now, only nobody protests it, they just whine & gripe on COTH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by War Admiral View Post
    That's not in dispute. However, the rules were selectively applied, just as they are right now, only nobody protests it, they just whine & gripe on COTH.
    I went back and re-read the article and yes, I get that the president or whatever won his carriage class with the wrong number, so ok, I'll give you that.

    But I still don't get the reaction from the jumper riders with regards to the whole ordeal. I still don't understand how what they did could be considered a protest. I am still just left picturing them as a bunch of immature toddlers pitching a huge temper tantrum. And I am sure that if the professionals of today acted this way at Devon for any reason, the "old timers" here would say the same thing (or worse, most likely) about them.



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    You'd probably get a revolt like this today if show mgmt. ever enforced the ring hold time limit. Can just imagine how some trainers would react if they were shut out of a class because show mgmt. decided not to hold everything up just for them.


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    The rules should be applied (or not applied, as the case may be) to everyone. But, I think it would have been far classier for everyone involved if they chose to take an early evening and just stayed back in the barns and didn't show up at all than to cause pandemonium by pulling the shenanigans they did. JMHO.



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    Quote Originally Posted by pds View Post
    You'd probably get a revolt like this today if show mgmt. ever enforced the ring hold time limit. Can just imagine how some trainers would react if they were shut out of a class because show mgmt. decided not to hold everything up just for them.
    What exactly is the "ring hold time limit" according to the rules? The rule in question with regards to this thread is the jumper rule where each entry has a specific amount of time between when the buzzer goes off after entering the ring, until the entrant passes through the start timers. This is the rule that was apparently broken by multiple exhibitors at Devon in 1964 in an attempt to protest something. This rule is still in effect today.



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