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  1. #1
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    Default Bit help por favor

    So here's the low down.
    Horse goes well 70% of the time in a Happy Mouth Dee Ring Dr. Bristol.
    The other 30% I need more leverage because he gets strong generally with a lead change or after a jump. No medical problems (recently had back problems, but we got a custom saddle and he got laser treatment and hock injections and haven't had any of the problems we used to have related to his back, no pinning his ears or anything) and it's not dangerous just really ugly when I have to wrestle him back.
    He's now in a Tom Thumb (short shanked) Pelham and the last 30% doesn't happen often anymore, and when it does it's easier to control, but he very obviously doesn't like the bit, I don't like the bit, and goes better in the bristol for the other 70% of the time.
    I was thinking of putting him in either a plain dee ring (maybe a single joint instead of double joint will help?), a dr. bristol without the happy mouth (but I'n not sure if that will make much difference), or a full cheek dr bristol or plain full cheek. I think I just need a little more leverage than the happy mouth and less than the pelham. (fyi this is hunters, so no gags or anything, unless you think it'd be beneficial to school in a gag/something hunter unconventional and show in something else).
    Does anyone have opinions or helpful suggestions?
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    I would start with a full metal dr Bristol. You already know he likes that bit.
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    Is the pelham you are using a single or double joint? Some horses don't do well with single jointed bits - my horse is one of them. Double jointed Pelhams aren't too easy to find but you could also try a Mullen mouth?

    I used to use a Full Cheek Slow Twist Bristol on my gelding but were now just going in a loose ring KK and schooling with a different noseband occasionally as he's more sensitive.

    Hope you find a bit that works!
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    Pelham is a single joint. I'm going to see what's in my trainers but box to try out and just try everything.
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    You could also use on bit to flat and another to jump. I leased an 18 y/o TB who flatted in a plain loose ring snaffle and was perfect, but needed a little more "whoa" around a course so we used something with a twist to jump.

    Its also worth it to try to figure out why he rushes fences and lead changes - could be anxiety, could be you aren't supporting with enough leg, etc. Might be something you can fix and still keep him in the bit he likes now.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Rel6 View Post
    You could also use on bit to flat and another to jump. I leased an 18 y/o TB who flatted in a plain loose ring snaffle and was perfect, but needed a little more "whoa" around a course so we used something with a twist to jump.

    Its also worth it to try to figure out why he rushes fences and lead changes - could be anxiety, could be you aren't supporting with enough leg, etc. Might be something you can fix and still keep him in the bit he likes now.
    He flats perfect in the dr. bristol so maybe I'll try either a non-happy mouth one, or I know they make them with a twist if that doesn't work.
    He doesn't rush the fence so much as after a fence, it's more like a yay, I just jumped time to go to pull my head down a little and go fast. I think it's mostly a me think and quite honestly it's because I'm not really that much in shape yet. I'm currently really working hard with a program to get in shape, but right now my core leaves me a bit collapsed after a jump because he jumps so hard. It's not so much HIS anxiety as it is mine and trying to work out the death grip I take with my legs sometimes to stay with that jump.
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