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    Default AQHA People! Quarter Horse lines?

    Please forgive the cross-post on this, but I wasn't getting much feedback in the breeding forum, and was told that I should try over here.

    I'm wondering if anyone would be willing / able to tell me something about this Quarter Horse filly's pedigree. I don't have any in-depth knowledge of Quarter Horse bloodlines other than what I've read online and in various pedigree books. I should note that this filly's mother was double registered AQHA / FQHA, and produced dressage, hunter, and driving horses. Thanks!

    http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/keyhole+chatelaine



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    Quote Originally Posted by DancingFoalFarms View Post
    Please forgive the cross-post on this, but I wasn't getting much feedback in the breeding forum, and was told that I should try over here.

    I'm wondering if anyone would be willing / able to tell me something about this Quarter Horse filly's pedigree. I don't have any in-depth knowledge of Quarter Horse bloodlines other than what I've read online and in various pedigree books. I should note that this filly's mother was double registered AQHA / FQHA, and produced dressage, hunter, and driving horses. Thanks!

    http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/keyhole+chatelaine
    She looks to be a mixture of performance, including cows on top, lots of foundation on the bottom. What are you wanting to do with this mare? Higher percentage of foundation, but that would depend on the parents whether she is double registerable with FQHA. Is sire registered foundation? Nice looking pedigree, but I am not in the breeding industry, just have a couple of nice AQHA horses. Pictures are always appreciated.


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    Quote Originally Posted by craz4crtrs View Post
    She looks to be a mixture of performance, including cows on top, lots of foundation on the bottom. What are you wanting to do with this mare? Higher percentage of foundation, but that would depend on the parents whether she is double registerable with FQHA. Is sire registered foundation? Nice looking pedigree, but I am not in the breeding industry, just have a couple of nice AQHA horses. Pictures are always appreciated.
    Sure thing! Well, it's a strange story, but I found the Phoebe's (the filly) mother Lucy out on the desert. Her owner died of cancer, and his son basically turned the three remaining mares loose hoping someone would take them. I kept seeing these horses, and was particularly taken with the grulla. It took about a week, but I tracked the owner's son down, and then took the mare. I researched her brand and found her breeder, got her papers, and discovered her English sporthorse background -- lovely mover by the way; most people thought she was a small Hanoverian or German Riding Pony.

    I discovered that she was in foal, and *then* tracked down who she'd bred to -- but I have absolutely no knowledge of that stallion. By asking around the QH farms out west, I discovered that he might have been from racing stock, but I can't confirm that.

    At this point, I'm not sure what to do with the filly. She's been interested in cows since day one, and used to "cut" and herd the other foals at pasture. She's tough, bold, and stoic. She doesn't really move like her mother (dressage-type), and had a tendon injury at a young age, so I won't turn her into a hunter. I'm not a Western rider at all, and the only time I've actually been in a Western saddle was when I borrowed some tack the day I brought Lucy off the desert That said, I'm totally willing to explore any discipline that allows this filly's talent to shine!

    Here's her mama: Keyhole Watch Fob
    Here's Phoebe: Keyhole Chatelaine.



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    That's quite a story! Gorgeous mare; I bet the filly turns out great.


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    Thanks! She's a real sweetie, and I'm excited to see how she turns out.



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    Quote Originally Posted by DancingFoalFarms View Post
    Sure thing! Well, it's a strange story, but I found the Phoebe's (the filly) mother Lucy out on the desert. Her owner died of cancer, and his son basically turned the three remaining mares loose hoping someone would take them. I kept seeing these horses, and was particularly taken with the grulla. It took about a week, but I tracked the owner's son down, and then took the mare. I researched her brand and found her breeder, got her papers, and discovered her English sporthorse background -- lovely mover by the way; most people thought she was a small Hanoverian or German Riding Pony.

    I discovered that she was in foal, and *then* tracked down who she'd bred to -- but I have absolutely no knowledge of that stallion. By asking around the QH farms out west, I discovered that he might have been from racing stock, but I can't confirm that.

    At this point, I'm not sure what to do with the filly. She's been interested in cows since day one, and used to "cut" and herd the other foals at pasture. She's tough, bold, and stoic. She doesn't really move like her mother (dressage-type), and had a tendon injury at a young age, so I won't turn her into a hunter. I'm not a Western rider at all, and the only time I've actually been in a Western saddle was when I borrowed some tack the day I brought Lucy off the desert That said, I'm totally willing to explore any discipline that allows this filly's talent to shine!

    Here's her mama: Keyhole Watch Fob
    Here's Phoebe: Keyhole Chatelaine.
    Very nice. I would say do whatever you want to with your filly. The mare is athletic and so will the filly even if she does move differently. Start her dressage and move on from there if you don't ride western. Check out trail obstacles or ranch sorting. Just have fun with both of them.


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    I think they are both ungodly ugly and you should send them both here to Pennsylvania and I will help you out by taking them off your hands.

    Seriously, they are both VERY well bred with some excellent foundation bloodlines and some great modern bloodlines. Both look like very high quality horses and with those bloodlines and their confirmation you could do whatever you want with
    them. I have horses with very similar breeding and I can say that they have great temperaments and are very versatile!


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    Quote Originally Posted by cutter99 View Post
    I think they are both ungodly ugly and you should send them both here to Pennsylvania and I will help you out by taking them off your hands.

    Seriously, they are both VERY well bred with some excellent foundation bloodlines and some great modern bloodlines. Both look like very high quality horses and with those bloodlines and their confirmation you could do whatever you want with
    them. I have horses with very similar breeding and I can say that they have great temperaments and are very versatile!
    Thanks! That's great to hear I'm out of my depth with Quarter Horses, and am finding that the AQHA is very different to deal with from the smaller breed orgs like Holsteiner. I'm excited to try new things; I was even playing around with the idea of Working Equitation. Living out west, I'm getting a real appreciation for the ranch horses -- I love watching them work!



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    Once you try a Quarter Horse, you'll never go back to those "other" breeds!

    Please continue to post pictures of your girl as she grows up! She is gorgeous!


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    Mom and baby are both beautiful! I'm originally an english rider (hunters, TBs, etc), but when I see a cutting horse at work it brings tears to my eyes. Being open to allowing a horse to shine in the area it was bred for speaks of a generous attitude that crosses all disciplines. I'm sure she's in good hands with you!



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    On the top side, your horse goes back to Mr Meyers, one of only four foals out of Miss Meyers, who's in the American Quarter Horse Hall of Fame for her racing ability. Mr Meyers was an AQHA Champion in his own right with conformation points and $25,658 in track earnings in the early 1960s, when purses were quite small.

    Your horse also traces to Skipa Plaudit, a grandson of Skipper W, another Hall of Fame horse.

    The real score is that she traces to Smart Chic Olena, an outstanding sire of western performance horses and a two-time AQHA world champion in cutting himself. Smart Chic Olena has produced money-earners in NCHA, NRCHA and AQHA.

    On the top side of the bottom side of her pedigree, she traces to Sugar Bars, an old-time racing stallion and another Hall of Famer.

    On the bottom side of the bottom side of her pedigree, she traces to the ranch and roping stallion Two Eyed Jack, another Hall of Famer, through his outstanding son Watch Joe Jack, as well as Poco Dell, a Champion son of Poco Bueno.

    While those are all nice names to have in the pedigree, they're a little far back to indicate anything more than that she should have a little speed, some nice conformation and a willing work attitude.

    As far as I'm concerned, the most important part of any pedigree is the dam, and you have her right there close enough to be sure that she's a nice one



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    and you found her wandering around in the desert???

    Good grief!

    Def. sounds like it was meant to be.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Hippolyta View Post
    and you found her wandering around in the desert???

    Good grief!

    Def. sounds like it was meant to be.
    I did, indeed! It was the luckiest day of my life They're both real gems.

    Thank you all so much for your help, especially all the info from RL Starkey. I'm at home with my Holsteiner and KWPN pedigrees, but feel like a complete fish out of water with the AQHA stuff. But wow, Quarter Horses are neat



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    Your filly's dam's side is very interesting. She's almost totally foundation bred. I have a mare that is a granddaughter of Watch Joe Jack also and she has been good at everything I have tried her at. I've ridden her very successfully at open shows for 10 years and have shown English, Showmanship, Western, Trail, Reining and Western Riding (lots of lead changes in that class). I LOVE the work ethic in my mare - yours could be very similar, although yours has a little more "cow" in her due to the Smart Chic Olena. She's a pretty little thing - get you a Western saddle and go out there and kill 'em in EVERY event!



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