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    Default Just In - The New Cowboy Dressage Challenge

    Well these tests certainly look more interesting for the spectators than a normal dressage test.

    http://youtu.be/vYuuxKNzeds
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    That looks like a fun thing to do but just because it's performed in an area with letters doesn't make it dressage!
    Last edited by duecavalle; Feb. 27, 2013 at 07:56 PM. Reason: add the word "performed"


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    I don't see anything testing about it, nor any quality.
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    That looked like alot of fun. It looked like Working Equitation since there were so many tasks that were very much WE. I thought his lope was alot better than his jog, though the jog did get more forward (or less sucked back) as time went on. Lots of cool things to teach a horse. I liked the box alot. I wonder who sets up the poles because they seemed too close for that horse -what do you think.

    Thanks for the video. I posted it to Facebook.

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    I would be more interested in knowing how the different movements were judged. The ToF, and the what we would call a ToH were not what we would want. No straightness in the walks. Just ride from A to B and get there.
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    I prefer the working equitation. http://youtu.be/5895K-Xjupk


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    Pedro Torres is always awesome to watch. That particular video is in my favorites. Having said that; you've got to walk before you can run right? I think the video Mike posted may be a great way to start on that WE road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulaedwina View Post
    Pedro Torres is always awesome to watch. That particular video is in my favorites. Having said that; you've got to walk before you can run right? I think the video Mike posted may be a great way to start on that WE road.

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    Why not start with WE tests ? http://workingequitationusa.com/

    http://www.ialha.org/?attachment_id=4510
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    They're on my list. Girls just wanna have fun.

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    better yet, start with the dressage training scale.


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    Rhythm, suppleness, contact, impulsion, straightness, collection. Indeed. That's where we all start. So you'll see muddy gaits in beginning Cowboy Dressage, Traditional Dressage, Western Dressage, Working Equitation, etc. because we all start there. You'll see sucked back horses. We've all experienced the slow trot that's not passage, it's just a slow, btl trot, but it feeeeels sooo coool



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    Quote Originally Posted by paulaedwina View Post
    Rhythm, suppleness, contact, impulsion, straightness, collection. Indeed. That's where we all start. So you'll see muddy gaits in beginning Cowboy Dressage, Traditional Dressage, Western Dressage, Working Equitation, etc. because we all start there. You'll see sucked back horses. We've all experienced the slow trot that's not passage, it's just a slow, btl trot, but it feeeeels sooo coool



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    Completely agree! None of that should happen in a giant shank though. I think the interest in dressage from the Western world is great, but I also feel like they are bastardizing it.


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    Recently saw an ad for a "Western Dressage 101" clinic with a western trainer. I've known her for many years, and she's as western as they come.

    How ironic that she's now offering "Western Dressage 101" instruction; when we both rode at the same barn years ago (me dressage, her western) she was condescending about my horses and dressage.

    Kind of like the Linda Parelli enigma....
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    Looks like the open trail classes in California from the 70's and 80's.


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    Quote Originally Posted by duecavalle View Post
    Completely agree! None of that should happen in a giant shank though. I think the interest in dressage from the Western world is great, but I also feel like they are bastardizing it.
    I can't speak to the shank. I don't ride in one, my trainer who rides Western doesn't ride her stallion one. However, many Western riders do and they use different aids and I simply do not know enough about the intricacies of Western bridle aids versus English bridle aids to speak on it.

    I think it's too bad that we don't use Traditional Dressage judges in Western Dressage competition, and instead look to train Western judges to understand purity of gaits, etc. in the dressage tradition. To me that's not efficient use of resources. A TD judge is suited to judging gaits right now regardless of whether it is TD or WD as far as I am concerned.

    As to the bastardization of Dressage. Heck, I don't think they went to war in top hats and tails, and let alone with a cavalry of mostly women. And I as I understand it, dressage competition (the content of the tests) itself hasn't been static so what is bastardization?

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    Quote Originally Posted by merrygoround View Post
    The ToF, and the what we would call a ToH were not what we would want.
    I also think it was a mistake to ask for the ToF and a ToH as the next movement. Neither was what a dressager would want. But more to the point, the transition between them wasn't clean. To it, it looked like the horse was moving both ends, rotating around a point under his belly.

    If any dressage is about making a horse broke and strong, and tests are meant to insure that we riders are doing that, why would you want a horse with such mushy turns?
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    That is to dressage what a squawfish is to a salmon -- I found it very entertaining that they have to lay out rails so a western rider can tell where to ride a circle, and the cones in the corner, to help them through a corner


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    That's a trail class, not western dressage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velvet View Post
    That's a trail class, not western dressage.
    Funny you say that because when I posted it to my FB page one of my descriptors was that it would be a good way to get into competitive trail training.

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    So this is not part of the Western Dressage? Is Cowboy Dressage yet another 'discipline'?

    And what the heck is this horse is having for a bit? with a tie-down?

    The movement, the training behind this horse, the pattern. It shows nothing related to dressage. I don't even see why there are letters around the arena.

    Is Dressage the new fancy word of the day?




    Not really interresting as far as dressage goes but the ending is funny!


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