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  1. #1
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    Default Stallion test spin -off - registering foal when breeder did not pay stallion fees

    What happens to registering a foal/horse (by current owner) whose parentage is known, but no breeding certificate was issued due to non-payment of fees (by original breeder, "x"+ owners ago) to stallion farm?

    Would like to hear how different registries handle such a situation from the stallion owner side, and current horse owner side.

    How do stallion owners handle this and why?
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    Don't know how other registries handle it, but OHBS/GOV requires an original breeding certificate (not a photocopy), signed by both the stallion owner/agent and the inseminating veterinarian. The premise is that the SO isn't going to provide a signed BC unless he/she has received full payment from the breeder. In this way, the registry helps protect the interests of the SO, which again, is part of the "services rendered" to the SO in exchange for activating their stallion with the registry.

    And of course, the stallion must be approved by the registry, or by an acknowledged breeding association, and the dam must also be approved.

    As for saying "the parentage is known" - how do you know it if there are no registration papers? Has a DNA analysis been done to confirm parentage? I would be rather suspicious about claims that a horse was of certain parentage, esp. when such claims originate from the very person who stiffed the stallion owner - she has already proven herself to be dishonest.



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    Assuming that parentage is known/verified, couldn't a mare owner pay a fee for activation for one foal? It seems to me like there was a Hanoverian stallion who wasn't activated, but if you wanted a foal you could pay a fee, somehow prorated, for that one foal and get the foal registered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clint View Post
    Assuming that parentage is known/verified, couldn't a mare owner pay a fee for activation for one foal? It seems to me like there was a Hanoverian stallion who wasn't activated, but if you wanted a foal you could pay a fee, somehow prorated, for that one foal and get the foal registered.
    Yes, some registries allow a breeder to pay a single permit breeding allowance fee for using a non-activated stallion, assuming the stallion is acceptable to the registry. However, she will still need to provide a breeding certificate signed by the SO.



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    MOers no longer get breeding certificates to register AHS foals, either fresh or frozen.
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    I believe the RPSI (and others), will inspect foals of approved, but non-activated, stallions for an activation fee of $30-50 at the time of inspection.



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