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  1. #41
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    It sounds like you're just looking to be left alone. In that case I would think pretty much any deeply rural, sparsely populated area should suffice. There simply isn't enough infrastructure in deeply rural areas that you'll be micromanaged.

    Which can be a double edged sword. Because there are people who love property rights so much they want to exercise yours as well as theirs - which can be a problem if infrastructure is lacking. (police, fire and rescue)

    Wanting to be left alone is pretty reasonable. I don't know that desire is only found in one political party or ideology. Heck - neither party wants to leave people alone - we are all their pawns.

    Honestly I'd just look for a very rural area and check out the climate, cost of living, horsey scene, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by c'est moi View Post
    If you're looking for freedom from government interference, Somalia is for you.

    Bonus: its got lots of cheap beachfront property!
    I was thinking Haiti.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey the Marcher View Post
    LOL.
    I've had several people over the last 30 years use that EXACT SAME argument to defend the use of the word 'nigger'.


    It's all code, right? Like liberty=I can shoot you if you knock on my door.
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    The hateful comments are interesting and reflect the reason that I am looking for a place with sane and thinking people as a vacation home area. Voting? using the "n" word for no reaon and making foolish statements? random, almost incompehensible insults for no reason. Liberals who idolize Che Guavara saying that conservative want to be like Cuba?
    I just don't want to get into a place with the "crazies" that seem to dominate the country, these days.


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    OP, it might be helpful if you were more specific about which rights are your concern. Gay rights, gun rights, property rights, abortion rights? Freedom of religion or freedom from religion? Freedom of speech but freedom from the speech that offends you? What is your persuasion?
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    I still think you would like NH. Low taxes, no sales tax, has a coast line, long tradition of libertarian values, no gun control, state motto is "live free or die".



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    Judysmom, I will definitely look at NH. I know the motto and that is great.



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    I find the amount of racism that has surfaced in this thread very disconcerting and interesting. There were at least, at least, three attacks on black people in this thread that had nothing to do with race. You people who are making those statement should really do some soul searching. Samalia, Haiti, racial epithets, really.....not cool.

    Happymom, is there any reason that the neighobrs are putting sewage on you land? do they just really dislike you? Can you think of anything you did to them first? This thread would lead me to believe that there could be two sides to that story.


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    Coyoteco -

    Seriously, look at Ocala. It's a GREAT place, very horsey, very pretty. My neighbors have a house there, and go every fall to spend the winter. They love it. They love their neighbors, have fun doing all kinds of things within the people-oriented town, and would never come home except it gets really hot and humid down there in the summer. So they come North every Spring.

    I do love Key West. Everything about that place is great, especially the people. I got claustophobic on Hawaii, and every other island I'd been on (and I've been on plenty all around the globe), but never on Key West.



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    Why bless your heart Cyoteco, I believe you are deliberately trying to hurt my feewings! :lol


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    So yet another OTD where this OP wants to tell other COTHers about his political beliefs, as if we all have forgotten the last OTD. And true to form this OP calls posters who disagree with his political beliefs names, oh and I am still on his ignore list.

    Honestly, this need to tell people-in a cyber world-about his political beliefs is getting old. WE get it, and we also get that you hate people who disagree with you. Why don't you find a far right forum to babble on...


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    or...Montana. Schizophrenic about "color" - go red for the prez election but have dem gov and two senators.

    We are rural. Mindful of all sorts of liberties, which is a double edged sword (not so good on social services).

    Great horsey scene. Great hunting! And fishing! And scenery if you don't hunt or fish! Missoula has kind of an "arts" scene and tends to be more liberal. I love our neighbors! No one is dumping sewage around here! But if you can take care of yourself, like the outdoors, are generally not a big government fan, Montana is a great place!


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    Um. Since when does being a Democrat = being against personal freedoms? As a group, Dems were not real thrilled with the Patriot Act, think the government should have no jurisdiction over a woman's vagina, believe gays should have the same freedom to marry as straights have, etc. The only thing that comes to mind is the gun argument, over which most have a pretty middle-of-the-road "let's have better background checks, etc." stance on that issue. ???

    FTR, I have never vote a straight ticket. I've voted for members of both parties, as well as independents. It's usually a case of "Who is the lesser of two or more evils?"

    Ok. Back to the bickering. Just wanted to make a small point.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pdq View Post
    Coyoteco -

    Seriously, look at Ocala. It's a GREAT place, very horsey, very pretty. My neighbors have a house there, and go every fall to spend the winter. They love it. They love their neighbors, have fun doing all kinds of things within the people-oriented town, and would never come home except it gets really hot and humid down there in the summer. So they come North every Spring.

    I do love Key West. Everything about that place is great, especially the people. I got claustophobic on Hawaii, and every other island I'd been on (and I've been on plenty all around the globe), but never on Key West.
    lol, you are the only person I've heard have the island claustophia that I have. i haven't felt it in Key West when I've been there a few times, but I drove down, I think I would on a long term basis. It is beautiful and unique. I'm thinking I need to take a drive down there sooner rather than later. Talk about underestimated destinations - I think Key West is one of them. I do want the horses around, though.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Frizzle View Post
    Um. Since when does being a Democrat = being against personal freedoms? As a group, Dems were not real thrilled with the Patriot Act, think the government should have no jurisdiction over a woman's vagina, believe gays should have the same freedom to marry as straights have, etc. The only thing that comes to mind is the gun argument, over which most have a pretty middle-of-the-road "let's have better background checks, etc." stance on that issue. ???

    FTR, I have never vote a straight ticket. I've voted for members of both parties, as well as independents. It's usually a case of "Who is the lesser of two or more evils?"

    Ok. Back to the bickering. Just wanted to make a small point.
    "Since when does being a Democrat = being against personal freedoms?" It always has and it always will. If you don't understand that, you have no business even voting.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Coyoteco View Post
    "Since when does being a Democrat = being against personal freedoms?" It always has and it always will. If you don't understand that, you have no business even voting.
    And you have the unmitigated gall to talk about OTHER people being insulting.

    That's okay. I learned a while back not to take anything you say seriously. I question your sanity, frankly.
    Everyone is entitled to my opinion.


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    Stolen, you just made me laugh like a loon. Thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Long Spot View Post
    Stolen, you just made me laugh like a loon. Thank you.
    It just wouldn't be OTD without a Coyoteco thread.....


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    Since you seem to want the personal freedom from liberals, you might consider this list helpful (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...-poll/1885131/)

    Top-10 in each category:
    Conservative:
    1. Alabama – 50.6%
    2. North Dakota – 48.6%
    3. Wyoming – 48.6%
    4. Mississippi – 48.2%
    5. Utah – 48.0%
    6. Oklahoma – 47.3%
    7. Idaho – 47.1%
    8. Louisiana – 45.6%
    9. Nebraska - 45.3%
    10. Arkansas – 45.5%


    Liberal:
    1. District of Columbia – 40.8%
    2. Massachusetts – 30.5%
    3. Oregon – 29.3%
    4. Vermont – 29.2%
    5. Delaware – 28.4%
    6. Connecticut – 28.4%
    7. Washington – 28.3%
    8. Rhode Island – 28.3%
    9. Hawaii – 27.7%
    10. New York – 27.7%


    Moderate:
    1. Alaska – 42.7%
    2. Rhode Island – 41.5%
    3. Ohio – 39.5%
    4. Maryland – 38.3%
    5. Massachusetts – 38.1%
    6. Michigan – 38.0%
    7. Nevada – 37.8%
    8. Connecticut – 37.8%
    9. Montana – 37.6%
    10. New Jersey – 37.6%
    Very helpful map identifying the percentages of each state: http://www.gallup.com/poll/160196/al...ve-states.aspx

    You'll also want to keep in mind the changing demographics of any state that interests you. In general, states with growing populations of young people, women, and people of color are less likely to fit your narrow point of view.

    JSwan has a very good point about looking for property that's far from others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coyoteco View Post
    The hateful comments are interesting and reflect the reason that I am looking for a place with sane and thinking people as a vacation home area. Voting? using the "n" word for no reaon and making foolish statements? random, almost incompehensible insults for no reason. Liberals who idolize Che Guavara saying that conservative want to be like Cuba?
    I just don't want to get into a place with the "crazies" that seem to dominate the country, these days.
    Then what are you doing hanging out online?

    OP, you seem bewildered that some posters, myself included, are making fun of the coded speech of racism. It's not unlike the subculture of people who believe the the President of the United States was born in Kenya or is hiding his Marxist/nazi/ socialist beliefs. We know it's the deep undercurrent of racism in this country to refuse to accept this duly elected President, to claim his fundamentally American story is somehow exotic and other.

    So when you who are well-known for espousing these beliefs want to know where you can live among like-minded people, people are going to want to know exactly what it is that you mean.

    I know you favor small government, no affirmative action, freedom from the tyranny of health care, yes, Haiti comes to mind.

    You don't want to live in Florida. Not only did Obama win Florida despite an organized effort to discourage people from exercising their right to vote, but the governor has embraced Obamacare.
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