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Mar. 1, 2013, 11:19 AM
#381
Edited: Nevermind. I am getting so confused with all of the press releases "it is the mutated neuro strain", now "it's not the neuro strain."
Either way, I still think they should have quarantined the whole facility from the start.
Last edited by jlphilli; Mar. 1, 2013 at 01:41 PM.
 Originally Posted by rustbreeches
[George Morris] doesn't always drink beer, but when he does, he prefers Dos Equis
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Mar. 1, 2013, 11:59 AM
#382
I wonder if the same commercial shipping truck might have had contact with all locations... Seems like a logical (and fast) way to move the disease.
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Mar. 1, 2013, 12:14 PM
#383
 Originally Posted by katherine w
I wonder if the same commercial shipping truck might have had contact with all locations... Seems like a logical (and fast) way to move the disease.
Even if a commerical shipper didn't initially transmit the disease, I'm sure they have been going like gangbusters transmitting it since the first case was identified and many owners did the selfish, ill-advised thing, and started shipping horses all over the place that had been at HITS.
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Mar. 1, 2013, 01:03 PM
#384
FalseImpression had noted this a couple of pages back.
 Originally Posted by goodlife
"IT'S NOT THE MOUNTAIN WE CONQUER, BUT OURSELVES." SIR EDMUND HILLARYMember of the "Someone Special To Me Serves In The Military" Clique
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Mar. 1, 2013, 01:05 PM
#385
 Originally Posted by jody jaffe
My vet recommended against it. Said it doesn't help with the neuro kind and vaccines of any kind can stress the horse.
That is interesting. When they had the outbreak in Saskatoon a few years back (at the Vet Hospital/university), they did think that the vaccinated horses got less sick and were more likely to recover. Obviously not a huge sample set, but enough to make me want to vaccinate.
Freeing worms from cans everywhere!
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Mar. 1, 2013, 01:22 PM
#386
I may be banging my head against a wall trying to explain this but as ar as I can tell NO MUTANT VIRUS has been detected in the Ocala related horses. The wild type and mutant viruses vary by a single point mutation in their DNA. The UF released as statement that the horse from Tent 7 in Ocala was positive for wild type EHV 1. Wild type EHV 1 can have neurological symptoms but it IS NOT the MUTANT (D-strain) VIRUS. Some correct me if you have evidence to the contrary.
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Mar. 1, 2013, 01:22 PM
#387
FL cases are NOT the Neuro strain, and the vaccine can reduce shedding to reduce severity and spreading with both strains. My horse got a booster today after talking with my VET, but it was only a month ealier than I would normally give it anyways.
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Mar. 1, 2013, 01:56 PM
#388
 Originally Posted by titan
The wild type and mutant viruses vary by a single point mutation in their DNA.
This is all it takes to render a vaccine ineffective. A single point mutation (depending on which amino acid) can cause as much as a conformational shift in the viral capsid which influences things like virulence factors, survivability, and reproductive factors in the host. Glad to hear this is the WT strain.
 Originally Posted by rustbreeches
[George Morris] doesn't always drink beer, but when he does, he prefers Dos Equis
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Mar. 1, 2013, 01:58 PM
#389
 Originally Posted by Kenike
FalseImpression had noted this a couple of pages back.
Oops! Must have missed that. Sorry FalseImpression!
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Mar. 1, 2013, 02:03 PM
#390
 Originally Posted by goodlife
Oops! Must have missed that. Sorry FalseImpression!
It's all good! I didn't mean it as rudely as the text implies. Just that there are cases throughout the U.S. and Canada that aren't being talked about as much. Utah and Quebec both have dead horses from EHV-1.
"IT'S NOT THE MOUNTAIN WE CONQUER, BUT OURSELVES." SIR EDMUND HILLARYMember of the "Someone Special To Me Serves In The Military" Clique
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Mar. 1, 2013, 05:41 PM
#391
Today's update from the Florida Department of Agriculture regarding EHV-1 (includes information that one horse at Miles Away Farm developed neurological signs today and is being treated at the University of Florida, College of Veterinary Medicine. )
http://www.freshfromflorida.com/ai/p...siteUpdate.pdf
Old age is no place for sissies.
Bette Davis
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Mar. 1, 2013, 05:57 PM
#392
Bristol Bay, maybe there wasn't a 'massive' outbreak after Thermal last year, but up here in the PNW it continued to circulate (see post #83). Not only did one horse in the barn where I keep my horses die, but several others in our barn got sick a month or more later, after being exposed to a horse who got sick a week after returning from Thermal. Since one of the other trainers in the barn continued to show, it spread to other barns. We (my trainer) had a self-imposed quarentine that lasted for months. There was a lot of pressure from other trainers in the facility to deny that horses were sick or dead so that they could go do as they pleased. We kept the area vets in the loop and called on their expertise in educating others, but you can't make other trainers, HITS, or anyone else do the right thing.
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Mar. 1, 2013, 06:11 PM
#393
"I would not beleive her if her tongue came notorized"
"I also trap them in a Have-a-Heart and shoot through the bars." 
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Mar. 1, 2013, 06:12 PM
#394
 Originally Posted by FifteenOne
Today's update from the Florida Department of Agriculture regarding EHV-1 (includes information that one horse at Miles Away Farm developed neurological signs today and is being treated at the University of Florida, College of Veterinary Medicine. )
http://www.freshfromflorida.com/ai/p...siteUpdate.pdf
This morning, the horse would not eat. Shortly later, he was showing signs that he was not feeling well - legs splayed as if he were trying to keep his balance, and his eyes were looking from back to front rapidly. When he was haltered and asked to walk, he was stumbling and uncoordinated. Please keep him in your thoughts and prayers as he fights through this terrible ordeal - he has beat the odds before (ex-racehorse turned show horse who has battled pneumonia and recovered from invasive eye surgery) and with luck and good care, he will hopefully put this behind him as well.
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Mar. 1, 2013, 06:14 PM
#395
 Originally Posted by laughATTACK
This morning, the horse would not eat. Shortly later, he was showing signs that he was not feeling well - legs splayed as if he were trying to keep his balance, and his eyes were looking from back to front rapidly. When he was haltered and asked to walk, he was stumbling and uncoordinated. Please keep him in your thoughts and prayers as he fights through this terrible ordeal - he has beat the odds before (ex-racehorse turned show horse who has battled pneumonia and recovered from invasive eye surgery) and with luck and good care, he will hopefully put this behind him as well.
Sending prayers & jingles. It is a heartbreaking situation.
Old age is no place for sissies.
Bette Davis
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Mar. 1, 2013, 06:43 PM
#396
 Originally Posted by laughATTACK
This morning, the horse would not eat. Shortly later, he was showing signs that he was not feeling well - legs splayed as if he were trying to keep his balance, and his eyes were looking from back to front rapidly. When he was haltered and asked to walk, he was stumbling and uncoordinated. Please keep him in your thoughts and prayers as he fights through this terrible ordeal - he has beat the odds before (ex-racehorse turned show horse who has battled pneumonia and recovered from invasive eye surgery) and with luck and good care, he will hopefully put this behind him as well.
Poor sweetie sounds like he's been through enough in his life. Hoping that he recovers fully. Let us know how he's doing over the coming days.
You don't scare me. I ride a MARE!
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Mar. 1, 2013, 06:44 PM
#397
Also sending prayers for him. I'm so sorry.
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Mar. 1, 2013, 06:56 PM
#398
LaughATTACK - Heartbreaking, so sorry and prayers to the horse
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Mar. 1, 2013, 07:46 PM
#399
 Originally Posted by laughATTACK
This morning, the horse would not eat. Shortly later, he was showing signs that he was not feeling well - legs splayed as if he were trying to keep his balance, and his eyes were looking from back to front rapidly. When he was haltered and asked to walk, he was stumbling and uncoordinated. Please keep him in your thoughts and prayers as he fights through this terrible ordeal - he has beat the odds before (ex-racehorse turned show horse who has battled pneumonia and recovered from invasive eye surgery) and with luck and good care, he will hopefully put this behind him as well.
Sending more jingles as well. Hoping he fights the good fight and has a full recovery.
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Mar. 1, 2013, 08:01 PM
#400
I am on the show grounds in Ocala.
I think the best thing I can do for the horses in my care is to minimize their stress level by carrying on with their normal routine and not ship them until they are outside the stated incubation period.
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