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View Poll Results: What stallion has sired the greatest number of 4* progeny?

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  • Cavalier Royale

    6 22.22%
  • Cruising

    6 22.22%
  • Heraldik

    6 22.22%
  • Master Imp

    8 29.63%
  • Primitive Rising

    0 0%
  • Rock King

    1 3.70%
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    Default Know your 4* Horses (3) - Sires

    Out of all stallions who have sired CCI**** competitors since 2006, only 11.5% have sired multiple progeny. This leaves 88.5% of horses who have competed at the CCI**** level since 2006 sired by unique stallions.

    What stallion has sired the greatest number of 4* progeny?



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    Cruising?



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    First place is the sire of 13 CCI**** eventers and his progeny have a total of 8 top 10 placings combined (one horse has 5 of these)

    Second place has 9 competing at the 4* level with only 4 top 10 finishes.

    Third place has 8 competing with 8 top 10 placings combined.

    There is a 3 way tie for 4th (all have 5). One of these three stallions has the most top 10 finishes, 12 total for it's 5 babies combined.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Wits End Eventing View Post
    First place is the sire of 13 CCI**** eventers and his progeny have a total of 8 top 10 placings combined (one horse has 5 of these)

    Second place has 9 competing at the 4* level with only 4 top 10 finishes.

    Third place has 8 competing with 8 top 10 placings combined.

    There is a 3 way tie for 4th (all have 5). One of these three stallions has the most top 10 finishes, 12 total for it's 5 babies combined.
    Cavalier Royale
    But I counted 20 of his get that started 4*s. Some did not finish. Some might well have been pre-2006.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vineyridge View Post
    Cavalier Royale
    But I counted 20 of his get that started 4*s. Some did not finish. Some might well have been pre-2006.
    Thats interesting. I learned a lot about Irish breeding when I was over there and Cavalier is a very popular show jumping sire as well. Many of the young stock, and one of the grand prix horses were buy Cavalier.



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    Default Cavalier Royale

    Thanks to Viney for pointing out I'd missed a few Cavalier progeny. Helped me find a little error in the spreadsheet so Rolex 2006-2007 weren't being counted.

    Final score:
    Cavalier Royale 18
    Cruising: 9
    Master Imp: 9
    Heraldik: 5
    Primitive Rising: 5
    Rock King: 5

    The most prolific dam sire is a 3-way tie between I'm a Star, Chair Lift, and Clover Hill. Cruising is dam sire for 3 and interestingly Cavalier Royale isn't the dam sire of any CCI**** horses, yet...



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    Visit www.horsesportireland.ie for more information.



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    Earlier discussion about Heraldik who was an influential sire
    http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/sh...-Sire-Rankings



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    Cavalier Royale was just as good a show jumper sire as he was an event horse sire. And he IS showing up as damsire for them (sj). There are quite a few with him as damsire who were at Boekelo this year. I can't remember exactly, but it was in the neighborhood of 5. Pippa Funnell's Billy Beware has him as damsire.
    So I think he will show up in 4* eventers fairly soon as damsire. His sons don't seem to be doing quite as well, but time will tell.

    Heraldik is interesting for two reasons: Germany has traditionally not been a big event horse breeding nation. So his opportunities for purpose bred eventers was far more limited than Cavalier's. He sired some international show jumpers too, but he also sired a dressage stallion who went to the London Olympics for Poland.

    There is a Heraldik son standing in California named Hunter, and he looks very promising for eventing.
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