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    Quote Originally Posted by Gestalt
    No way can she be that tall. If guess not much more than 16h. I'm jingling like mad for a ful recovery. RA is beyond a superstar, she is all that and a p and b sandwich.
    They are confusing her with Zenyatta.
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    I did some reading a while back and it is my understanding that the mare determines the size of the foal at birth. There was some study in England I think, breeding ponies to horses. Maybe there is something off about RA, that her babies are really too big for her. In that case, might not be safe to rebreed her. What a loss, if so.
    I have been so concerned for her, checking for news all day.



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    Blood Horse says condition is unchanged tonight. She did eat a peppermint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VirginiaBred View Post
    They are confusing her with Zenyatta.
    I nosed around on the internet last nite re RA's height; its interesting that no one really knows, the guestimates are between 15.3 and 17 hands. Saw a picture of her walking next to a lead pony on the track and she didn't exactly tower over him. One guy was quoted as saying she wasn't nearly as big as Z.

    Jingling hard this am for good news; sounds like her filly will be fine.
    We don't get less brave; we get a bigger sense of self-preservation........



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    I have trouble believing she's 17 h, although I'm sure she seemed that to Calvin. Definitely a big horse heart in there. I've never seen her live, though. Just on TV.

    Here she is with an outrider. If she's that big, his horse must be a mack truck.

    http://horseracing.about.com/od/famo...-Oaks.-NnG.htm

    Hopefully she can dig in in this current battle like she did on the track.



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    I had a tear when I read that she ate a peppermint: seems poignant to me. My heart is in my throat for what is clearly a very dire situation. Come on Rachel, hang in there beautiful girl.


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    I saw RA at Monmouth and she is not a big horse. I cannot even say she is 16 hands but huge in heart. She is actually quite ladylike.
    Massive jingles that she pulls through this.....
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    I have been within about a foot of her several times. I would eyeball her right around 16 hands.


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    Quote Originally Posted by shea'smom View Post
    I did some reading a while back and it is my understanding that the mare determines the size of the foal at birth. There was some study in England I think, breeding ponies to horses.
    IIRC they were breeding Shetland ponies to draft horses- maybe Percherons.

    IIRC, the foals with pony dams were, on average, with statistical significance, smaller at birth that the average for the foals with draft horse dams.

    But there were still some pony dams with big foals, and some draft dams with small foals.

    Just because the EXPECTED result is smaller foals from a smaller dam doesn't mean that it will ALWAYS be smaller.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mommy peanut View Post
    While I can't say it has nothing to do with Rachel's genetics, Dr. Woodie has stated that the two issues(last yr & this yr foaling, etc) don't have anything to do with one another.
    They way I read his statements regarding it, was that he didn't think her problems have anything to do with genetics.
    I don't expect him to say anything differently in public, no matter what he thinks privately or tells the owners privately. You don't hear too many veterinarians who are private physicians to racing's elite criticizing not breeding for the whole horse.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Anne FS View Post
    I don't expect him to say anything differently in public, no matter what he thinks privately or tells the owners privately. You don't hear too many veterinarians who are private physicians to racing's elite criticizing not breeding for the whole horse.
    Then why say anything. He's clearly damned if he does and damned if he doesn't because the armchair vets are out in force. If I were Barbara Banke, I'd shut this whole social media thing down and rely on an occasional press release. Facebook is impossible now and they are even invading DRF. Honestly I thought the Barbaro people dispersed.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pronzini View Post
    Then why say anything. He's clearly damned if he does and damned if he doesn't because the armchair vets are out in force. If I were Barbara Banke, I'd shut this whole social media thing down and rely on an occasional press release. Facebook is impossible now and they are even invading DRF. Honestly I thought the Barbaro people dispersed.
    Ain't that the truth!? I've often wondered how the Zenyatta camp puts up with all the crazies. Heaven forbid anything should ever happen to HER. It'll be like Jonestown. Ok, maybe not Jonestown but the pyschiatrists will be busy.
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    Wow. I'm sure glad Ms. Bankes isn't anywhere NEAR as snotty as all y'all. Shame on you. You do the sport of racing no favors whatsoever with attitudes like that.
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    Was Zenyatta bred again and ready to foal this year?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Dispatcher View Post
    Was Zenyatta bred again and ready to foal this year?
    Yes, she was bred to Tapit. I hope she foals a grey baby personally.
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    A picture has been posted on facebook:

    https://www.facebook.com/home.php?re...type=1&theater

    For what she has been through, I would expect she could look a lot worse.

    She appears though to have something on her LF - didn't hear the lastest news conference, are they dealing with laminitis too or those some kind of preventative boots?



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    Quote Originally Posted by KnKShowmom View Post
    A picture has been posted on facebook:

    https://www.facebook.com/home.php?re...type=1&theater

    For what she has been through, I would expect she could look a lot worse.

    She appears though to have something on her LF - didn't hear the lastest news conference, are they dealing with laminitis too or those some kind of preventative boots?
    She is wearing soft ride boots - standard protocol after colic surgery for preventative measures. I'm sure she is having her feet iced regularly too.
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    Thats good - thought they took those off after they were cleared in recovery.



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    Some clinics use them as a preventative measure. Especially in cases where laminitis is a high risk . My gelding who had colic surg/similar issue with peritonitis was shod almost as soon as he was steady on his feet with preventative pour ins because laminitis was a concern. That was almost 20 years ago .. and the same clinic now outfits its high risks with soft rides.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toadie's mom View Post
    Ain't that the truth!? I've often wondered how the Zenyatta camp puts up with all the crazies.
    Someone on another forum went on a tour of Claiborne Farm. The groom said that after Blame retired, they had to hire extra security for a while because there were people making death threats against Blame (because he beat Zenyatta).



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