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View Poll Results: Your #1 choice for ulcer treatment

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  • UlcerGard

    12 92.31%
  • AbGard Paste

    1 7.69%
  • GastroMax

    0 0%
  • Gastroade

    0 0%
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  1. #1
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    Jul. 1, 2009
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    Default Input needed please -- your preference for ulcer tx

    I've always used UlcerGard, but am looking at some of the alternatives:

    AbGard paste from Abler (of "blue pop rocks" fame)
    http://www.abler.com/products/Abgard

    GastroMax (Got lots of good reviews on this website, anyway)
    http://www.bigdweb.com/GASTROMAX-PAS...ductinfo/4654/

    Gastroade Xtra
    http://www.coxvetlab.com/products/gastroade-xtra.htm

    Other ideas?

    I've got a soon-to-be 30 year old QH gelding, who has experienced his 2nd bout of what is assumed to be ulcers, unrelated to feed changes or increased stress. So far, they have improved with a couple of tubes of UlcerGard. First time it happened was about 3 months ago. So I've decided to bite the bullet and do the 30 day treatment, and am comparing costs.

    TIA

    Oh -- and he won't eat any grain, soaked alfalfa, beet pulp, etc., at the moment -- only alfalfa leaves -- so I'm not sure I could get the blue pop rocks down his gullet.
    Nothing with horses is ever easy or cheap. And if it is, you're doing it wrong. They always rip out part of your soul when they leave. I guess that's how they find us later.



  2. #2
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    Default

    Pop rocks. Not an option on the poll.


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  3. #3
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    I don't think I could get the pop rocks down him at this point, as he isn't eating anything in which I can hide them.
    Nothing with horses is ever easy or cheap. And if it is, you're doing it wrong. They always rip out part of your soul when they leave. I guess that's how they find us later.



  4. #4
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    Oops just saw the rest of your post. If they are not eating I do UG for 2 or 3 days (to get them eating) and then do pop rocks.


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  5. #5
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    Three weeks of ranitidine fixed my horse's ulcers (as verified by re-scoping), but you have to do it three times a day. Time or money, the dilemma of the ages. The ranitidine was $35 out the door at Costco. We put it in applesauce and syringed it down.

    My understanding from my vet is that only UlcerGard and GastroGard have both the coating and some sort of ingredient that buffers the pH so the drug is more stable.
    The Evil Chem Prof


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  6. #6
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    Abler granules. They go down very nicely in a deworming syringe with some applesauce.
    Click here before you buy.


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  7. #7
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    Apr. 14, 2001
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    Compounded omeprazole/ranitadine paste from Precision Pharmacy.

    My vet has scoped, confirmed the presence of ulcers, treated 30 days with this paste, scoped again and confirmed healing. 30 days is about $250.

    Let me know if you would like more information. This is an RX item.


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  8. #8
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    Love precision pharmacy compounded omeprazole-


    But if its that bad, do 30 days 1 tube UG/GG, then 15 days 1/2 tube, 7 days 1/4 then 7 days 1/4 every other day.


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  9. #9
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    Default

    Had my mare on the pop rocks for 35 days and she still had some bleeding grade 2 ulcers.

    Had to go to a full round of GGard.


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  10. #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by tollertwins View Post
    Had my mare on the pop rocks for 35 days and she still had some bleeding grade 2 ulcers.

    Had to go to a full round of GGard.
    How many packets per day of the pop rocks?


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  11. #11
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    From personal experience (on myself) I find that the Ratinidine provides more immediate rellief than the omeprazole. Try crushing in coffee grinder and syringing it with applesauce or a molasses and rice bran paste. The omeprazole takes a couple of days to provide relief but works better on a long term basis. You can also syringe the pop rocks which are my preference for long term treatment.


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  12. #12
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    Ranitidine or pop rocks
    "If you think nobody cares about you, try missing a couple payments..."


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  13. #13
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    I've had luck w/ Ranitidine 3x a day with or without compounded omeprazole treatment for suspected ulcers.
    Quote Originally Posted by rustbreeches View Post
    [George Morris] doesn't always drink beer, but when he does, he prefers Dos Equis



  14. #14
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    Thanks so much for all input.

    I had done the Ranitidine for a month, when he developed stomach issues with Previcox, but couldn't always do the 3 times a day stuff. However, I like the idea of syringing it, instead of adding it to his feed.

    And Simkie and reay6790, I'll ask my vet about Precision Pharmacy.

    Also sounds like it wouldn't be a bad idea to get some of the BPRs, just to have on hand.
    Nothing with horses is ever easy or cheap. And if it is, you're doing it wrong. They always rip out part of your soul when they leave. I guess that's how they find us later.



  15. #15
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    I have a tip for those using Ranitidine. Put the tabs in a syringe with a little warm water and leave it soak for an hour or until the next dose is due. It will melt into a thin paste that you just syringe into the horses mouth. MUCH easier than grinding and my horse actually prefers the texture to a mix with apple sauce.


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  16. #16
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    I'm using the Abler paste now (horse would not eat pop rocks). Seems to be working well, horse is eating and gaining weight (she had stopped eating and was skinny before starting).


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  17. #17
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    XTAC-- great tip - thanks, and Meadow36 -- that's also what I was wanting to know. Thank you.
    Nothing with horses is ever easy or cheap. And if it is, you're doing it wrong. They always rip out part of your soul when they leave. I guess that's how they find us later.



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