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  1. #41
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    It's Wisconsin and it can be cold here (hahahha, especially this past week). I've never had a farrier cancel my appointment and I've been out there in subzero temperatures holding horses (in a barn aisle, etc). I am game as long as the farrier is.

    I absolutely wouldn't mind at all if my farrier wanted to take a break and warm up in the lounge, etc. I just have barefoot horses, but I imagine, it's more difficult with the longer, complex shoe jobs. I try and make sure that when scheduling, it's an appointment that works for the other clients in the area/at the same barn/etc to try and keep his schedule easier for him.

    As a return, he has been on time or early for every appointment I've ever had with him!

    I'll have to ask what his preference is this next time if he'd rather I take the time to clean the feet (as I'm usually dashing out to the paddocks to get the woolly critters) or if he'd rather just get to work. I don't want to be irritating, but when it's cold, not sure if he wants to keep waiting. I do try and show up early (15 minutes or so), but he keeps beating me there and often I'm coming home from work or (previously) class or whatever and can't get out much quicker than that!



  2. #42
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    As a rule, my farrier shows up close to on-time, no matter what the weather.

    Because my "at home" farrier lives about 3 miles away, it's not a big deal for him to re-schedule me. Last time he was due out, it was nasty cold and raining. He called to tell me he'd be at my place in an hour or so, since he wanted to go home and change into dry clothes. It was late afternoon, I could tell he was worn out, and I just asked him if he wanted to squeeze me in on another day. All I had was a few trims and front re-sets on non-working horses, nothing that couldn't wait. He was relieved that I offered and he got to spend the rest of the day with his little girl. On the other hand, when I call and tell him Miss-Mare-who-destroys-her-feet-in-no-time-by-pawing has thrown a front shoe, he gets here pronto!



  3. #43
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    My current farrier has never cancelled due to the weather, though I would be okay with it if there were extreme conditions. In the 4 1/2 years that he has done my horses, he has only cancelled a few of times and with one exception, at least a few days before our appointment. The one exception was when he was hit by a drunk driver on the way to our barn (yes, in the early afternoon!). When he has cancelled, he also rescheduled during that call. When finishing our bills for the day's shoeing, our farrier will go ahead and schedule our next appointment before leaving for the day. If a shoe is lost, he tries to come out within a couple of days of being notified.

    I am shocked that people do not present their horse to the farrier with clean and dry hooves and legs! We clean them up the night before and they are kept in the morning of their appointment, to be turned out afterwards.



  4. #44
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    My current farrier and I have a great arrangement weather it is because of the weather or not. He called me Monday night and said with wind chills in the minus numbers would I mind if we did Friday? I had choices so no days missed. He called me today, Thursday with a broken pipe in his house and tomorrow he has to try and get his heat running.. He apologized a thousand times and we made an appointment for next week. No big deal. But because I am somewhat flexible he always take really good care of us.
    Mai Tai aka Tyler RIP March 1994-December 2011
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  5. #45
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    My farrier works in all weather. Except for this week. The first time she has ever rescheduled in 13 years the low was 2 felt like -10 with -20 wind chill. She tried to do one farm before heading to mine and was only able to get one horse done. It was just so cold her hands and feet were freezing.



  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Burten View Post
    When someone presents a service provider with a dirty, muddy, wet, whatever, horse, they are saying/showing that they don't respect said service provider enough to have their horse(s) clean and well mannered for the service provider. ymmv
    I quickly earned the title of "favorite client" because my horses are always tied up, clean and dry (soles too!) when my farrier arrives. He's never canceled on me and keeps in contact between appointments if we have a particular issue we're addressing. I can ask questions and he's happy to discuss any aspect of what he's doing and why - in fact, it's encouraged. He spends a day or two a week working alongside two of the best farriers in the area, working on some of the top sporthorses. He just told me at our last appointment that he's now working with the farrier that does Rich Fellers' horse, Flexible.

    OP, it sounds like it's time to get a new farrier.
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    lies with in us. - Emerson



  7. #47
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    Mine came during the coldest day we have had this year (wind chills below zero). I called and asked if he wanted to reschedule - he said no way. We now live in CT, but have lived all over, including Canada, and I've never had a farrier cancel because of the cold or the heat.



  8. #48
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    One of mine went to the barn on Wednesday morning when it was in the low teens. He put snow pads on my mare, which was extra work. He also did about 10 other horses at the barn before going to other barns. He's fabulous. The farrier who does my other horse at a different barn is also fabulous.

    @ Rick Burten - I'm almost never there for the farrier, but I'm pretty sure the barn owners/managers/staff make sure the horses are clean and dry. I don't board at super fancy barns, just well run ones.



  9. #49
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    I've been working the last three days in temps ranging from 10 to 20, with wind. As long as I'm in a barn out of the wind it's fine. I do set up a little space heater if it's really cold, just to warm up my hands and the hoof putty. Between horses or writing out bills, I put my tool cart in front of it. I will reschedule in really horrific weather if there is no shelter available, but usually if I wait the owner calls first.

    If you want your farrier to be happy, have a clean well-lit work area out of the wind, and makes sure horses are clean and dry. A heater blowing in the farrier's direction and available to warm up hands is a benefit to all! The horse holders use my space heater as much as I do.



  10. #50
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    I don't have a problem working in foul weather as long as there is shelter and the roads are decent. It's not worth the risk to myself and my vehicle if the roads are bad.

    Having said that, it never hurts my feelings if a client asks to reschedule due to the cold. The only problem can be finding an opening in the schedule.

    Also, with cell phones, there is no excuse for a farrier not to contact a client if they are going to be late. Sheesh. If I am more than 5-10 minutes late, it is because I have forgotten the appointment. I instruct people to go ahead and call if I am late and they haven't heard from me. I usually only mess up like that on rescheduled appointments, but it happens. So far I haven't gotten fired over it. And I don't quit clients if they forget an appointment with me, either. I like my clients. They are good people.
    "Passion without knowledge is a runaway horse."



  11. #51
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    Hi Matry! Long time no COTH

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    I just wanted to say that it is unusual for someone to present me with a wet or muddy horse but since a lot of my clients horses live out, it does occasonally happen. For the most part, unless it is atrocious or a habit, there is a quick clean up, I use an older rasp and I am sure to mention that in the future, there would be a grooming fee at best and/or an extra charge for the extra time spent.

    However, when it is very cold outside I am simply not willing to get wet and chilled. At the very least, the horse is not going to get my best work and at worst, I am going to end up sick and sore.. Not good for anyone.
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  12. #52
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    Quote Originally Posted by EqTrainer View Post
    Hi Matry! Long time no COTH

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    I just wanted to say that it is unusual for someone to present me with a wet or muddy horse but since a lot of my clients horses live out, it does occasonally happen. For the most part, unless it is atrocious or a habit, there is a quick clean up, I use an older rasp and I am sure to mention that in the future, there would be a grooming fee at best and/or an extra charge for the extra time spent.
    This is really how it works for me too...it's not common for me to do a muddy vile horse BUT some of my clients have horses that live outside and mud does happen as does rain/wet horses.



  13. #53
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    Hi Matry! Long time no see indeed!



  14. #54
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    Our farrier got Smartwool socks and toe warmers in his Xmas bag from Baxter (plus dog treats and a toy for his partner). We missed winter last year but it's definitely arrived this year, so gotta keep him comfortable.



  15. #55
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    Along with most posters, my farrier has never cancelled due to weather but I would totally understand if he did. He is easy to schedule, makes a real effort when shoes go missing, and always does a great job.
    The big man -- no longer an only child

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  16. #56
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    Hey Guys!

    I took some time off from message boards. I'm still out there, working, and I see you are here still offering good advice.

    I texted my client this morning to tell him I was still planning on driving there, and he suggested we reschedule due to icy roads. As I said, it didn't hurt my feelings. I contacted another client who was happy to have her horses done today instead. Worked out great all around.

    I frequently trim muddy horses. It doesn't bother me much. A lot of my client's horses live outside and simply have run-in sheds. Owners who have stalls almost always clean up their horses for me, but this fall/winter the mud has been awful. I was actually happy for the freeze to get away from all the mud. Be careful what you ask for...
    "Passion without knowledge is a runaway horse."



  17. #57
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    Matrioska, I lost your contact info. I had a bunch of calls about referrals for your area last year and no way to get in touch with you. Welcome back!



  18. #58
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    I shoe in Alaska so I work in a lot of extreme temperatures. I will cancel shoeing if it gets colder than -20 and the horse is not in a heated area. When it's that cold the propane for my forge freezes and horse hate having nails driven in and you can actually split a hoof wall nailing into the foot. I will trim to.about -40 if someone will hold the horse for me. Any colder than that and it's not worth driving through the ice fog and dealing with square truck tires. I also am very lenient about rescheduling in frigid temperatures.



  19. #59
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    Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha - here in montana farriers BETTER be okay working in weather conditions or they will be hungry! Vermont too! Neither the farrier in VT nor the guy out here have cancelled due to weather, in many cases they are EARLY and already working on my guys when I get there. It would not at all work for me if they did not call nor show up. I can tolerate late with a phone call but these guys are efficient and are not late. They have also been available for adding borium (here in montana), putting on lost shoes, helping with founder and so on. I was at a barn in NM and the regular farrier was awesome for most people, but....frequently did the no call no show, and when he did come, although he was very good, took over three hours! On one horse with no issues!

    My farrier in Vermont was pretty funny though, said that luckily being a farrier does not require any training, or actual knowledge, or schooling because when you get to the horse, the owner will tell you you how to do your job....



  20. #60
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperAlter View Post
    Temps are running between 15 and 20 degrees as a high. Thankfully, the wind has stopped!

    Provided your barn allows your farrier to stay out of the weather, would you still expect them to work in less than fair conditions?

    This is too funny! You must be in a warm climate. If we couldn't get (or expect) our farrier to work in those temps I wouldn't be able to get my guys feet done 6 months out of the year.

    He was here two weeks ago and it was 15 degrees . We both commented how nice it was for him to be out on such a " warm" day. We were serious. I do have a big barn so he( and I) are never out in the cold directly, but it is NOT heated or anything..



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