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    Default USDA Adopts Animal Disease Traceability Program

    http://www.horsecouncil.org/usda-ado...lity-program-0



    Sorry if this has been disscussed before, but can anyone tell me what this really means?

    TIA



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    As I read it there's not much new. When we travel interstate we get a vet. certificate and go about our business. The only time I've ever been stopped was going into FL. The inspector asked for the papers, looked at the horses through the trailer windows, returned the paperwork, and said, "have a nice day." It took all of 5 min. I've heard that others have had longer waits or a more rigorous examination.

    What might be new is the specific authorization of electronic ID but even that might not be new.

    For folks that follow current law I don't see any changes; for folks that don't I don't know what it means.

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    Now if it wasn't so bloody expensive to get an interstate health certificate, I'd be happier. It costs me $35 a horse plus the $50 farm call for the vet to stick a thermometer in them and do a mostly visual check. I live half a mile from the NC border so it's a real PITA to have to get a certificate each time I go to NC seeing it's so close. That can really add up when you are headed out that way frequently as we are here.

    I did see that if I move thru NC to get to another destination in my own state, I'm OK. That can happen several ways here. When I went to Grayson Highlands the best route was thru NC and since my destination is VA, I'd not have to have a certificate. Also if I go to VA Beach area, the best way for me to go is south around the Dismal Swamp preserve into NC and back into VA. That does help some.

    I wish we could get a seasonal pass or something like that. I know at one point there was something like that for certain states.

    Florida Ag inspectors have no sense of humor. Only place I've ever been checked also.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Daydream Believer View Post
    I wish we could get a seasonal pass or something like that. I know at one point there was something like that for certain states.
    A 6-month "passport" is available for some East Coast states. VA, NC and SC are among the states that will accept it. I heard from a friend that NY will also accept it, but have not confirmed that yet. If you travel a lot, ask your vet for one.
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    The stupid thing about all of it, whether it's good for 30 days or 6 months, is that it's a meaningless piece of bureaucracy, designed to do nothing more than generate revenue for vets and 'crats.

    Your horse can be newly vetted and certified, then go stand next to a horse at the in-gate who snorts his flu/rhino/strangles/etc. all over your guy and your "health certificate" is irrelevant. Same goes for the EIA mosquito who bites your horse right after his fly-by through the local Skinner's Market, and there goes your Coggins Test, too.

    I have thought for YEARS these tests are utterly meaningless nuisances.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Eboshi View Post
    The stupid thing about all of it, whether it's good for 30 days or 6 months, is that it's a meaningless piece of bureaucracy, designed to do nothing more than generate revenue for vets and 'crats.

    Your horse can be newly vetted and certified, then go stand next to a horse at the in-gate who snorts his flu/rhino/strangles/etc. all over your guy and your "health certificate" is irrelevant. Same goes for the EIA mosquito who bites your horse right after his fly-by through the local Skinner's Market, and there goes your Coggins Test, too.

    I have thought for YEARS these tests are utterly meaningless nuisances.
    I disagree. Any preventative program can be criticized on the exact, same grounds. This includes driver's licenses, aviation medical certificates, children's school mandated vaccinations, etc.

    No program is ever 100% reliable. That does not mean that no program should ever be undertaken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guilherme View Post
    As I read it there's not much new. When we travel interstate we get a vet. certificate and go about our business.
    It just occurred to me that if the pony ever needs to go to the large animal clinic at Auburn... technically he would need a health certificate to cross the Georgia-Alabama border!

    If the goal is disease identification and containment, state borders are an arbitrary designation. It could just as well be that you need one if you travel more than X miles from your home barn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coloredhorse View Post
    A 6-month "passport" is available for some East Coast states. VA, NC and SC are among the states that will accept it. I heard from a friend that NY will also accept it, but have not confirmed that yet. If you travel a lot, ask your vet for one.
    Yes, this is what I heard of. I did not realize my state participated. I wonder why it is not offered when you do call the vet for a health certificate your first trip out for the season. That would cover the vast majority of our travels with our horses to camp and ride.

    Thanks I will definitely ask. It would save us quite a bit of money.

    I have to agree with Lady Ebosi that a health certificate up to 30 days before travel is pretty meaningless in guaranteeing a healthy horse left for a certain destination. Lots of diseases can be exposed and incubated in that time frame. For traceability it might have some value.

    I actually got a letter from the USDA after I had a horse shipped to our farm from N. Mexico about Vesticular Stomatitis and to watch this horse for any symptoms, etc... Of course the letter arrived about 3 months after the horse did so it wasn't very timely. Horse was fine of course and we had no problems but it was interesting that someone is actually monitoring these health certificates.



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    I just saw this on a HR Yahoo group

    To: VCE-4HHORSE@LISTSERV.VT.EDU

    Hi Everyone, Please see info below from the State Vet’s office regarding the availability of a 6 month Interstate Event Permit for horses. Many other states have this program and eliminates the need to have a Certificate of Veterinary Inspection (good for 30 days) for each interstate trip during that 6 month period. Since all states do not accept or allow the 6 month permit – you will need to check and adhere to the regulations of the State into which you are traveling with your horse. Thanks,Celeste Celeste C. CrismanEquine Extension Specialist - Youth380 Litton Reaves (0306)Virginia TechBlacksburg, VA 24061540-231-9162 (office)540-231-3010 (fax) · To Subscribe or Unsubscribe to the 4-H Horse Listserve go to: Horse and Pony - Virginia Cooperative Extension and click on Subscribe to listserve on the right column.
    Subject: New permit allows six months of travel with horses throughout southeast U.S. Contact: Elaine J. Lidholm, 804.786.7686 NEW EQUINE PERMIT ALLOWS HORSE OWNERS TO MOVE ANIMALS THROUGHOUT SOUTHEAST UNITED STATES FOR SIX MONTHS According to Dr. Richard Wilkes, State Veterinarian with the Virginia Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services (VDACS), Virginia horse owners have a new opportunity to travel with their horses throughout the southeastern United States for six months using the new Equine Interstate Event Permit (EIEP). Effective immediately, horse owners may elect to obtain the six-month passport in lieu of a Certificate of Veterinary Inspection that is only good for 30 days. “Horse owners have asked for this interstate event permit option for some time,” said Dr. Wilkes, “but we had to ensure that we could provide the convenience of a six-month passport while continuing to protect Virginia’s equine industry from disease. We have developed the database and record-keeping system and have a Memorandum of Agreement with 14 states that allow us to move forward with issuing the permit.” Participating states include Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, North Carolina, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Virginia and West Virginia. The state of New York just recently announced that it will also accept the six-month permit. Horse owners may apply to obtain an Equine Interstate Event Permit from their accredited veterinarian. For each horse permitted, the owner must fill out and sign an application, present a Virginia origin Certificate of Veterinary Inspection (CVI) or health paper/certificate, have a valid negative Coggins test, and be able to document microchip identification or provide three view digital photos of the animal. Owners also will need to demonstrate their ability to perform an abbreviated physical exam that includes taking each horse’s temperature. They will need to record that information on the horse’s travel itinerary with each interstate movement. For more information about the Virginia equine passport application process, horse owners or veterinarians should contact VDACS’ Office of Veterinary Services at 804.786.2483. Horse owners and veterinarians may find additional information on the VDACS website at vdacs.virginia.gov/animals/eiep.shtml. Elaine LidholmDirector of CommunicationsVirginia Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services102 Governor StreetRichmond VA 23219804.786.7686
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    Thanks Carol!



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    Thanks for the info about the 6 mos health certs.

    I am wondering though what good it does for New York to accept it. To move a horse from, say, VA to New York, you still have to pass through several states (Maryland and Pennsylvania) that don't accept it. So wouldn't you still need a 30 day cert for those states?



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    well this does provide and easy pathway to institute the National Animal ID Act by removing the "or" and insert "and".... oh we just changed a standing regulation a little.. what's wrong with that is what they will say afterwards ..then the fines start piling up... what's wrong with that?



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