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  1. #41
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    Donnerschlag has produced some really pretty ammie friendly horses.... they all had good bone, great temperaments, and great feet and pretty faces.

    I believe he has several off spring in the FEI arena, and many of them ridden by ammies.



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    Thanks for the suggestions. We are building a list and will be winnowing it down in the coming weeks.



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    Quote Originally Posted by sid View Post
    Aww..yes, he is one that is hard to forget. While you never saw him under saddle as he was stallbound from an injury, that kindness and heart was more than evident.

    In fact when Scott and Suzanne Hassler were riding him when he was been frozen by Paul at Select Breeders at Hilltop (and I didn't know either of them) because he was USET long-listed and I had to have top knotch FEI riders on him while he was there for collection, I got a call I won't forget.

    Scott called me one Friday evening out of the blue within a week of him going to Hilltop/Select Breeders. He introduced himself and just called to tell me that they loved Boleem instantly. They couldn't believe what a people-pleaser he was. He remarked "what a big heart" and work ethic, yet an awesome athlete.

    Heck, I could have put a toddler in his stall to spend the night in there and he would have taken care of them. Just his nature. No one "made" him that way. That's just the way he was.

    I've never forgotten that heart combined with kindness and athleticsm. I was blessed to own him. I miss him every day. Glad you had a chance to meet him. His kiddies that live on have the same characteristics. And that is really wonderful for me though I had to stop marketing him for breeding for the last few years.

    Okay, I'll go blown my nose in a hankerchief.

    It is funny, even though he was just in his stall when I was there for a few weeks/months he just had that "thing' about him. I have been around a lot of horses and stallions but he just had that "old soul" kindness ooozing out of him. I wish my brain was working better with Nootka because I should have jumped at the chance to breed to him. Maybe if my new inutero foal is a filly I may need to store some frozen for a Boleem Kabbie in the future! (not to mention I LOVED Bijou (sp?)

    I loved seeing his face when I would come into the barn

    Sorry OP back to the original program
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    I second Olivier
    beautiful head, big sweet eyes
    good solid feet
    huge heart
    passes on great temperament - easy to train with talent to spare



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    Quote Originally Posted by Nootka View Post
    It is funny, even though he was just in his stall when I was there for a few weeks/months he just had that "thing' about him. I have been around a lot of horses and stallions but he just had that "old soul" kindness ooozing out of him. I wish my brain was working better with Nootka because I should have jumped at the chance to breed to him. Maybe if my new inutero foal is a filly I may need to store some frozen for a Boleem Kabbie in the future! (not to mention I LOVED Bijou (sp?)

    I loved seeing his face when I would come into the barn

    Sorry OP back to the original program




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    Freestyle. All of his babies are reknown for temperment, and my two both have that "Heeeeeey. Don't you want to come over and pet me and hug me?" Attitude. Very loving, sweet. Both have great feet and are barefoot, as are all my horses, and no issues. He really puts on steadiness. I was just looking at his video today, and I'm stunned how much my four year old looks like him. He's also approved for everything, great semen, great stallion owner to work with, and better price than most.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayhawk View Post
    "So those people AREN'T looking for those traits when they are breeding their nice mares?"

    No......We already have most of those traits in our "NICE" mares.

    We might be looking for a little longer leg or a little more scope in a mare. we might be looking for a better canter or loin connection in another. We may be looking for a more angled hind leg or cleaner poll connection in another.

    No way should a wish list for a mare EVER be 11 things long. It's unrealistic as breeding doesn't work this way.
    So what you're saying is that if your nice mares have good conformation you're willing to breed the to a stallion with crappy conformation flaws as long as the stallion doesn't have the same problems as the mare?

    What *I'M* saying is that no matter how nice and correct my mare is, I'm not going to breed to a stallion who has a crappy loin, or straight hocks, or a bad saddle position, or a poor neckset, or long slopey pasterns. If I work for generations (or pay good money for) a mare with really nice movement and conformation, I'm not going to waste my time with a stallion who is going to have lesser traits than the mare.

    Your suggestion that wanting good conformation in a stallion is an "improvement" list is insulting to a good, correct mare and those of us who have high standards. What OP is asking for is a "don't want to ruin my mare" list."

    So Bayhawk, you can breed your nice mare who needs a better length of leg to a stallion with a crappy neckset or bad feet or if you want, but don't harp on people who aren't willing to accept those lesser standards in other areas just to fix one problem. That's how you get inconsistency in the gene pool.


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    My two cents worth... you might go looking for a stallion who truly has prepotency and stamps the foals with his looks, and those types of stallions aren't that easy to find. Judy Yancey used to have a trakehner stallion called Harper. I believe he had that ability. She probably still has frozen on him, and Harper was a son of her great mare who through several generations has produced approved stallions including the champion stallion at this years Stallion Testing. She has said many times about his foals that you can always see Harper in his foals. I have also heard Judy say those same remarks about the Holsteiner Stallion Abke. I am sure there are others but that would be a good place to start.

    You can contact her (Yancey Farms) and ask her to confirm my comments, but she is a wise knowledgeable breeder who is very helpful.



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    I actually don't mind Bayhawk's use of the word "improvement", what I DO object to is his use of the word "fix". I think that ANY good horse can be "improved", and isn't that what better/modern breeding is all about?!?! Having to "fix" something, though, is a whole 'nother kettle of fish. From the OP's post, I gathered this is a nice mare they definitely don't want to detract from by using a sub-standard stallion and if possible, there are some things that could be even better. I don't see the problem with that, sounds like responsible breeding to me. Some interesting suggestions have been made, I'd be interested in seeing pix/video of the mare and the stallion that is chosen for her. Best wishes for an excellent (and improved, LOL) outcome. ;-)



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