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  1. #1
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    Default Safe-Fence 1.5" electric tape vs. Horseguard

    I was wondering if anyone has used Safe-Fence brand tape? http://www.kencove.com/fence/Tape+Fe...detail_JH3.php ValleyVet also carries the product.

    Also, has anyone compared this product directly to traditional Horseguard? Safe-Fence has a 20 year limited guarantee and the cost is about the same (except Safe-Fence comes in black).

    Just curious, thanks in advance!
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    I have seen both used, and have several rolls of the Kencove sitting in my barn I haven't got around to dividing our field but plan to... we also plan to use it around our garden to keep the deer/dogs out. FWIW I've heard GREAT things about Horseguard and haven't really heard much about Safe-Fence. If I were going to be doing perimeter fencing, I would go with Horseguard (it just seems more sturdy to me!).
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    I've used the "cheap" tape (can't remember what brand, but I liked that it was 2" wide) and I've used Horse Guard. I will never buy anything other than Horse Guard ever again. It really is different. We get a lot of wind, and the old wide tape acts like a sail. The Horse Guard has an open weave and stands up to the wind. I used a lot of fiberglass posts and they would literally bend over in the wind with the tape billowing. Not so much with the Horse Guard. Right now I have two strands of Horse Guard, one strand of the old tape and one grounding polywire in my exterior fence. I am thinking of replacing the old tape with Horse Guard. The one thing I wish I had done is the bi-polar Horse Guard, although it was not available when I started my fencing project.



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    Quote Originally Posted by 4cornersfarm View Post
    I've used the "cheap" tape (can't remember what brand, but I liked that it was 2" wide) and I've used Horse Guard. I will never buy anything other than Horse Guard ever again. It really is different. We get a lot of wind, and the old wide tape acts like a sail. The Horse Guard has an open weave and stands up to the wind. I used a lot of fiberglass posts and they would literally bend over in the wind with the tape billowing. Not so much with the Horse Guard. Right now I have two strands of Horse Guard, one strand of the old tape and one grounding polywire in my exterior fence. I am thinking of replacing the old tape with Horse Guard. The one thing I wish I had done is the bi-polar Horse Guard, although it was not available when I started my fencing project.
    I don't think the safe-fence is the same cheap fence they have at local farm stores...I'm asking about that one specifically. For one thing it costs as much as the Horseguard and has a 20 year warranty. I agree with you though on the cheap tape.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrotTrotPumpkn View Post
    I don't think the safe-fence is the same cheap fence they have at local farm stores...I'm asking about that one specifically. For one thing it costs as much as the Horseguard and has a 20 year warranty. I agree with you though on the cheap tape.
    If you can look at the safe-fence, check the weave. That's what makes the difference on the Horse Guard. It's an open weave that lets the wind through.



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    I use Safe Fence and I twist it a couple of times between each post. We're at the highest point in the county and we always have winds. It's been up for 2 years now and I've not had any problems.
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    My neighbor has what I think is the Safe Fence and I have Horse Guard. Very different weave and quality. We get some good winds up here (not long ago, we had several days of 40-45 mph sustained and gusts of 70+!) and the HG has worked really well. It has an open weave so you do not have to twist it, which IMO looks better. My neighbor's only have the SF up on two paddocks that are not exposed to much wind and shortish runs, so not necessarily a good test. The hardware from HG is hands down superior to any other I have seen. The stuff my neighbor has looks just like that in the photos of the SF online I just looked at, and the gate handles are awful. If you did want to use SF tape to go black, I'd get hardware from HG as a lot of it is black (gate handles specifically).

    HG will send you tape samples with their catalog/installation manual. Maybe SF will do that as well? Then you can really compare.


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    Thank you guys! This is the kind of information I was looking for, I really appreciate it. I am not interested in "twisting" the fence rail, so that is good to know too.

    I do have samples of the horseguard and know how well regarded it is by a few barn owners I know, but I thought it was worth looking at the other (free shipping on orders over $75 for one thing).

    Thanks again!
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    FYI - Horseguard is having their annual sale right now. 10% off everything until January 31st. In case that helps anyone!



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    I use the Kencove Safe-Fence 1.5", and it is far superior in quality to the ordinary generic brands. Supple and open weave.

    I live in Northeast PA on the NYS border, we have lots of snow, ice and wind. The fence has been up since 2001 and we love it.

    As with any fence, construction makes a difference. In the various pastures we used between 8' and 12' spacing to prevent sagging and wind damage. No twisting required. On the odd occasion a deer has gone through it or a branch came down on it, repair took only minutes.



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    Quote Originally Posted by horsepoor View Post
    FYI - Horseguard is having their annual sale right now. 10% off everything until January 31st. In case that helps anyone!
    I saw that. Hence my overwhelming urge to use up the COTH airways with fencing questions.
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    We just put up (2 weeks ago) about 5 acres of Horse Guard fencing and it looks awesome. Since then we have had some very high winds and the fence doesn't move. Once the posts were in (we used 4x8 wooden posts) putting up the fence was easy! Yes it takes a little time to measure and put all the connector things on the posts, but once that is done the tape goes up quite quickly. We used 3 strands and it is more than enough. The HG folks were very helpful, I just emailed exactly what I wanted, and I got a quote that I put into the website and still got the 5% website discount (although I really didn't do much figuring out). And it is true, they do have the 10% discount now so I would go for it.
    FYI, I used the Bipolar BROWN tape, it looks so good.



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    Quote Originally Posted by horsepoor View Post
    FYI - Horseguard is having their annual sale right now. 10% off everything until January 31st. In case that helps anyone!
    How do I get the 10%, I have signed up for the newsletter, it has been many years since I ordered anything, Thanks so much.



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    Never mind, it shows up in the order )



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    I bought the brown bipolar too. Just got the boxes yesterday. Now I just need to figure out the right "low impedence" charger.

    I decided to fence paddocks with the horse guard and fence the perimeter with something else (just in case of a breach).

    I can't wait for spring!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruiser12 View Post
    We just put up (2 weeks ago) about 5 acres of Horse Guard fencing and it looks awesome. Since then we have had some very high winds and the fence doesn't move. Once the posts were in (we used 4x8 wooden posts) putting up the fence was easy! Yes it takes a little time to measure and put all the connector things on the posts, but once that is done the tape goes up quite quickly. We used 3 strands and it is more than enough. The HG folks were very helpful, I just emailed exactly what I wanted, and I got a quote that I put into the website and still got the 5% website discount (although I really didn't do much figuring out). And it is true, they do have the 10% discount now so I would go for it.
    FYI, I used the Bipolar BROWN tape, it looks so good.
    How far apart did you go on the post spacing?
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    Vote Safe-fence.
    Tried going less expensive using Horse guard & @ Electro guard, currently replacing with safe fence.
    Original SF installed on wood posts set @ 12' 1996, still runs a strong current & holds tension.
    The other only 4 yrs old, webbing has sun rotted, metal threads have broke.
    Not sure about winds- located in Delmarva region.
    But snow has been above bottom line, all I do is wait for melt & re-tighten, same for trees.



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    We LOVE our Horse Guard fence! Installed in 2010, and got the Bi-Polar. We run a Parmak Super 5 50 mile charger on it (d@mn donkey!) and it is hot as fire! Post spacing is 16 feet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaos theory View Post
    We LOVE our Horse Guard fence! Installed in 2010, and got the Bi-Polar. We run a Parmak Super 5 50 mile charger on it (d@mn donkey!) and it is hot as fire! Post spacing is 16 feet.

    http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps513cbdfe.jpg
    I see you have four lines of HG... I just posted a thread asking about 3 or 4. What is the spacing on yours, and the height of the fence?
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